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I need it for a YEC over on the Creation Science and TE forum, who would like a list with links.
By the way, any Christians here are invited to come on over and check out the new thread responding to an article he linked about the fossil record refuting evolution.
Last edited by Vance; 12th November 2003 at 09:52 PM.
I need it for a YEC over on the Creation Science and TE forum, who would like a list with links.
By the way, any Christians here are invited to come on over and check out the new thread responding to an article he linked about the fossil record refuting evolution.
Don't bother, Vance. I've glanced over the threads in question, and if it's for the YEC I think it's for, you're wasting your breath.
Nothing in heaven or Earth is going to pierce the wall of arrogance and ignorance that one's built around himself.
Man, lurking that Creation Science board always depresses me...
I saw the posts in question (along with a bunch of others) and I agree with Nathan: don't bother. No matter what you throw out he'll just respond with, "that's just your opinion, it's not been proven" or some such thing. He's already made up his mind, so why waste your time?
__________________ Creationism has not made a single contribution to agriculture, medicine, conservation, forestry, pathology, or any other applied area of biology. Creationism has yielded no classifications, no biogeographies, no underlying mechanisms, no unifying concepts with which to study organisms or life. - Botanical Society of America's Statement on Evolution
Yes, but you were always willing to listen and made sensible arguments and could recognize sensible arguments (thus your acceptance of TE). I have already given up on him and let him know.
I agree that it gets very depressing seeing the level of wilfull ignorance. Not just ignorance, but *wilful* ignorance as us attorneys call it. And just as in the law, wilfull ignorance is no excuse.
He'll probably hand-wave it away (like he seems to have everything else people bring up), but it might benefit some lurkers.
__________________ Creationism has not made a single contribution to agriculture, medicine, conservation, forestry, pathology, or any other applied area of biology. Creationism has yielded no classifications, no biogeographies, no underlying mechanisms, no unifying concepts with which to study organisms or life. - Botanical Society of America's Statement on Evolution
Well, I notice this person has gone from wanting transitionals, to wanting pictures, to wanting photographs. I have a feeling they'll next claim they'll want the real fossils.
I wouldn't waste your time anymore Vance. They are shifting goalposts all over the place in an effort to deny any evidence. Heck, you could probably line up an entire transitional series right in front of their eyes and they'd still bury their head in the sand.
If you still want to debate with this person, I'd do it for the benefit of the lurkers. Focus on delivering evidence, rather than getting into a protracted argument about who responded to what.
__________________ Creationism has not made a single contribution to agriculture, medicine, conservation, forestry, pathology, or any other applied area of biology. Creationism has yielded no classifications, no biogeographies, no underlying mechanisms, no unifying concepts with which to study organisms or life. - Botanical Society of America's Statement on Evolution