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13th November 2003, 07:25 PM
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13th November 2003, 08:30 PM
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Reps: 1,320 (power: 12) | | Originally Posted by Jet Black we should hold a CF science forum meet in pensacola florida outisde hovind's dino museum thing and do just that.
I live in that state.
"Banned"??- Don't freak me out like that, Jet.
-edit- I guess my title is also guilty of being freaky.
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13th November 2003, 10:28 PM
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Reps: 172 (power: 0) | | | Where is Lucaspa's list of transitional fossils? Certainly not where real things are located. | 
13th November 2003, 11:54 PM
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__________________ "Creationists are going to distort whatever arguments come up.... Archaeopteryx is half reptile and half bird any way you cut the deck, and so it is a Rosetta stone for evolution, whether it is related to dinosaurs or not. These creationists are confusing an argument about minor details of evolution with the indisputable fact of evolution." -Dr. Alan Feduccia, in an interview with Discover magazine | 
14th November 2003, 06:03 PM
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Reps: 295,212,687,427,838,720 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by ByGrace Where is Lucaspa's list of transitional fossils? Certainly not where real things are located.
Probably not. Apparantly the "real" shelf is cluttered with volumes about magic trees and talking snakes. Who put that there? | 
14th November 2003, 06:10 PM
|  | Veteran 41  | | Join Date: 18th July 2003 Location: Salt Lake City
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Reps: 172 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Nathan Poe Probably not. Apparantly the "real" shelf is cluttered with volumes about magic trees and talking snakes. Who put that there?
If I cant say anything nice then I should just delete.
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14th November 2003, 06:15 PM
|  | Jedi Master 26  | | Join Date: 5th June 2002 Location: Northern Ireland
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Reps: 62,343 (power: 74) | | Originally Posted by ByGrace And real volumes about degenerate reprobates and their eternal destiny.
EEWwww religious snob. This just says to me "I'm better than you, you hellbound sinner!"
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15th November 2003, 05:30 AM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | | Vance, your creationist is making a lot of assertions and not backing them up. I'd hold his feet to the fire on some of those things like all the scientists who've embraced YECism because it's good science and only converted to Christianity later. Just shrugging it off with "I know I read it somewhere" really isn't good enough. Plus, if you answer his questions in your own words rather than with links to TalkOrigins, he'll have to do likewise if he's to appear to have any credibility in terms of scientific knowledge. At the moment he's stonewalling the whole time.
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15th November 2003, 02:53 PM
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Reps: 154 (power: 0) | | | Vance, patience is a virtue, and you are far more virtuous than i'd be. I read the threads this is for, and i see only that you have good evidence and the fellow is doing a dance around them. He keeps wanting more and more, up to the actual creatures alive and well in front of him, at which point he would say that they are no longer T.S. but actal species. arrggg. I see why the creationists avoid this forum except to put forth nonsense and run.
I mean,
I don't attack christianity or notions because I am not a theologian(except when certain fundies refuse to actually consider other possibilities, and then its just Ad hominem-I admit it). The line between beleif and science is so blurred over there that I can't take more than a few minutes at a time.
Reading a pile of creationists books about evolution does nothing to explain evolution or biology or microbiology or bichemistry to these people, nor do these books actually seem to have ways to scientifically disprove evolution.
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