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Is the US going to suffer in the long run because of creationism?
Will it have a detrimental effect on the efficiency of the US workforce?
Are parts of the US segregating themselves because of creationism? (any more than usual)
Do you see any other ways creationists could possibly damage the US?
This is of interest to the rest of the world for a few reasons,
1. If the increase in creationism starts to effect the US economy, other economies could run away causing all kinds of problems,
2. If the US economy declines badly it will drag others down with it, (there is no doubt about that)
3. We know China is on the way up, so can the US afford to stand still or even take a backwards step?
Will it have a detrimental effect on the efficiency of the US workforce?
Are parts of the US segregating themselves because of creationism? (any more than usual)
Do you see any other ways creationists could possibly damage the US?
This is of interest to the rest of the world for a few reasons,
1. If the increase in creationism starts to effect the US economy, other economies could run away causing all kinds of problems,
2. If the US economy declines badly it will drag others down with it, (there is no doubt about that)
3. We know China is on the way up, so can the US afford to stand still or even take a backwards step?
Depends how it's used rather than the idea itself.
No idea on what effects will come about because of or in relation to it.
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Whether or not the general public believe in creationism or not is of absolutely no consequence. Now, if there are biologists that deny evolution, physicists that deny the big bang, and geologists that believe in a global flood, that is where problems would start.
Will it have a detrimental effect on the efficiency of the US workforce?
Are parts of the US segregating themselves because of creationism? (any more than usual)
Do you see any other ways creationists could possibly damage the US?
This is of interest to the rest of the world for a few reasons,
1. If the increase in creationism starts to effect the US economy, other economies could run away causing all kinds of problems,
2. If the US economy declines badly it will drag others down with it, (there is no doubt about that)
3. We know China is on the way up, so can the US afford to stand still or even take a backwards step?
Will it have a detrimental effect on the efficiency of the US workforce?
Are parts of the US segregating themselves because of creationism? (any more than usual)
Do you see any other ways creationists could possibly damage the US?
Europe and America were formed and built by Creationists. The greatest minds in history have subscribed to it. The belief in God and the literal account in Genesis has bound communities together to principles of hard work, clean living and upstanding morality.
1700 years after the conversion of Constantine and the mainstream adoption of the Christian faith and from the genius of Christian countries we have automobiles, planes, trains, electricity, running water, telephones, heat and a hundred other comforts of modern living you take for granted.
Since the hypothesis of evolution came about, people are becoming generally more despondent and living off the backs of what their forefathers built in Christian countries. But this won't last. The cause of economic collapse in Christian countries is the throwing to the winds of faith; and you're suggesting the reverse?
Europe and America were formed and built by Creationists. The greatest minds in history have subscribed to it. The belief in God and the literal account in Genesis has bound communities together to principles of hard work, clean living and upstanding morality.
1700 years after the conversion of Constantine and the mainstream adoption of the Christian faith and from the genius of Christian countries we have automobiles, planes, trains, electricity, running water, telephones, heat and a hundred other comforts of modern living you take for granted.
Since the hypothesis of evolution came about, people are becoming generally more despondent and living off the backs of what their forefathers built in Christian countries. But this won't last. The cause of economic collapse in Christian countries is the throwing to the winds of faith; and you're suggesting the reverse?
Europe is more prosperous than the US and they are less religious. Coincidence? Possible. But it doesn't support your position. Back it up with evidence.
Europe is more prosperous than the US and they are less religious. Coincidence? Possible. But it doesn't support your position. Back it up with evidence.
Europe and America are both prosperous Christian countries.
All of the aforementioned creations stem from Christian Europe. It was Europe that formed the worlds most beautiful architecture in the form of Cathedraels and Castles during the so-called "dark ages." It was Europe that invented the printing press, cement, metalworking, agriculture, two story housing, literature, religion, law, seafaring and the industrial revolution.
It was both the men of Europe their Christian descendants in America that brought about electricity, flight, rocketry, railroad transportation, computers, the microscope, radio, television and eventually the ability to split the atoms of creation and form the most powerful weapon on earth, the atomic bomb.
It was Christians who built modern civilization as we know it. So for someone to claim that the mainstream adoption of creationism would somehow imperil the modern world should be considered a source of amusement, if nothing else.
Personally, I'd say we need not wait until the long run.
America is in a sad state of anti-educationalism right now, and religious fundamentalism (of which creationism is part) is a contributing factor.
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I think what will be (and is being) damaged by creationism is Christianity.
So, to the extent anyone thinks that the US will be damaged by Christianity being damaged, then yes, the US will be damaged.
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Europe and America were formed and built by Creationists. The greatest minds in history have subscribed to it. The belief in God and the literal account in Genesis has bound communities together to principles of hard work, clean living and upstanding morality.
Nonsense. America was formed by Deists, not Creationists.
Originally Posted by MatthewKnight
1700 years after the conversion of Constantine and the mainstream adoption of the Christian faith and from the genius of Christian countries we have automobiles, planes, trains, electricity, running water, telephones, heat and a hundred other comforts of modern living you take for granted.
Much of this occurred after Darwin wrote On the Origin of Species (see next question)
Originally Posted by MatthewKnight
Since the hypothesis of evolution came about, people are becoming generally more despondent and living off the backs of what their forefathers built in Christian countries. But this won't last. The cause of economic collapse in Christian countries is the throwing to the winds of faith; and you're suggesting the reverse?
See previous answer. Also, how can belief in evolution result in all this moral decay, when most Americans do not believe in it, especially in atheistic evolution?
Originally Posted by MatthewKnight
Europe and America are both prosperous Christian countries.
Yet Europe has a lot more atheists in it.
Originally Posted by MatthewKnight
All of the aforementioned creations stem from Christian Europe. It was Europe that formed the worlds most beautiful architecture in the form of Cathedraels and Castles during the so-called "dark ages." It was Europe that invented the printing press, cement, metalworking, agriculture, two story housing, literature, religion, law, seafaring and the industrial revolution.
Europeans did not invent religion, agriculture, metalworking nor seafaring.
Originally Posted by MatthewKnight
It was both the men of Europe their Christian descendants in America that brought about electricity, flight, rocketry, railroad transportation, computers, the microscope, radio, television and eventually the ability to split the atoms of creation and form the most powerful weapon on earth, the atomic bomb.
What, the atomic bomb is a good thing? Besides, most of these were Christians, but not necessarily Creationists.
Originally Posted by MatthewKnight
It was Christians who built modern civilization as we know it. So for someone to claim that the mainstream adoption of creationism would somehow imperil the modern world should be considered a source of amusement, if nothing else.
Again, you are conflating Creationism (which is founded on the principle of rejecting science) with Christianity.
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"It is a false religion that disguises itself as Christianity. It is an Orwellian construct that teaches that Reality is a Lie and that Lies are the Truth. That Science is Religion and Religion is a Personal Relationship; that Belief in the Mundane is Faith and that Atheists have more Faith than Christians. It perverts scripture into making Christianity look foolish, while all the while convincing its victims that they are the "True Christians." It is called Creationism." - Split Rock
Again, you are conflating Creationism (which is founded on the principle of rejecting science) with Christianity.
Exactly.
Please Matthew, don't drag Christianity into this unnecessarily. If you took all the evolutionists in the world and put them into a big room, it is very likely that most of them would be Christians.
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