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4th March 2008, 09:48 AM
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Reps: 60,432,235,365,689,568 (power: 60,432,235,365,700) | | Originally Posted by hiscosmicgoldfish  I have seen on those facinating 'oopart' websites, evidence for dinosaur survival. I don't think these ooparts should be dismissed off hand. There is a relief carving in Cambodia Ankor Wat, Ta Prom temple of a stegasaur. (I've actually been to Ta Prom by the way, but didn't know about the stegasaur, I saw it on a website). The only explanation for this is ..
1.It is a recent forgery
2.There were surviving stegasaurs in the forrest of Cambodia in the year approx 1400AD.
3. It doesn't represent a stegosaurus. It's a carving of an animal with pointy things on its back, but other than that it doesn't look much like a stegosaurus -- it looks more like a rhino. It could be a lizard, and it could be a mythical animal (like other carvings at the same site). The "plates" on the animal's back could be nothing but a decorative motif -- they look an awful lot like the decorations found around all of the carvings in that panel. |
4th March 2008, 10:38 AM
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Reps: 18,889,155,825,852,136 (power: 18,889,155,825,864) | | Originally Posted by hiscosmicgoldfish There is a relief carving in Cambodia Ankor Wat, Ta Prom temple of a stegasaur. (I've actually been to Ta Prom by the way, but didn't know about the stegasaur, I saw it on a website). The only explanation for this is ..
1.It is a recent forgery
2.There were surviving stegasaurs in the forrest of Cambodia in the year approx 1400AD.
I take it you're referring to this? 
Admittedly, the plates ( if that's what they are) do look a bit stegosaur-ish. But the head couldn't look any less like that of a stegosaur (or any other dinosaur). For this reason, I doubt very much that this is supposed to represent a living dino relic.
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4th March 2008, 01:12 PM
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Reps: 76,406,953,280,889 (power: 76,406,953,285) | | | true, I hadn't noticed the similarity with the carvings on the outer side, and it does look like a rhino. There are a few others stored in my brain, which are more convincing, for any of you out there interested, I'd be interested in any explanations. I'll dig them out of the internet when I get time. There's a carving in a church in UK, a brass rubbing, and another carving on a Babylonian cylinder. I can't post pics. at the moment so I'll have to direct you to the sites. |
4th March 2008, 01:15 PM
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Reps: 76,406,953,280,889 (power: 76,406,953,285) | | Ok here are the 3 images that have impressed me the most from creationist sites...
Mesopotamian relief
page 2 of http://www.s8int.com
Dinosaurs in Literature, Art & History
Copan Sculpture Museum January 9, 2004 page 26
what sort of bird is it?
Bishop Bell’s brass behemoths! http://creationontheweb.com
Just curious... Rhamphorynchus, did this animal have 'struts' in the
wing?
I am thinking to aid in the lift, by shaping the surface
of the wing, instead of a flat surface, (a curved upper surface has better lift properties).
This might not show up in the fossil imprint. I'm just wondering because the
wings of bats are shaped by the bones, and in Rhamphorynchus and others it might
have been noticed somewhere.. any internal structure made out of cartilage? | | |
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