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I would say it was a story adapted from Babylonian and Egyptian mythologies, designed to demonstrate a theological point, rather than a history. It was not strictly for children.
You mean "owns", as in "takes ownership of" or "fully adopts and accepts"?
__________________ In matters that are obscure and far beyond our vision, even in such as we may find treated in Holy Scripture, different Interpretations are sometimes possible without prejudice to the faith we have received. - St. Augustine, in his analysis of Genesis.
But the "all your base" is a funny bit, using terms like "pwns" in every day language seems a bit childish, unless it is tongue-in-cheek and/or self-deprecating.
EDIT: wow, I just noticed how old you were. And here I have been thinking of you as a teenager all this time.
__________________ In matters that are obscure and far beyond our vision, even in such as we may find treated in Holy Scripture, different Interpretations are sometimes possible without prejudice to the faith we have received. - St. Augustine, in his analysis of Genesis.
But the "all your base" is a funny bit, using terms like "pwns" in every day language seems a bit childish, unless it is tongue-in-cheek and/or self-deprecating.
Originally Posted by Wikipedia --- pwn
Pwn is a slang term that implies domination or humiliation of a rival, used primarily in the internet gaming culture to taunt an opponent that has just been soundly defeated.
I use it sans taunt.
Originally Posted by Vance
EDIT: wow, I just noticed how old you were. And here I have been thinking of you as a teenager all this time.
__________________ In matters that are obscure and far beyond our vision, even in such as we may find treated in Holy Scripture, different Interpretations are sometimes possible without prejudice to the faith we have received. - St. Augustine, in his analysis of Genesis.
Go ahead and show us how the Bible proves the Bible pwns my explanation.
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If creationists are honest their answer would be 'No',
because God could just make everyone on the planet disappear and leave only Noah and his family alive,
had he done that the animals need not have died and the 'Flood' story would be seen for what it is, a story.
Let's look at the 'Flood' and the interventions God needed to make in order for the 'Flood' story to work.
God told Noah he was going to flood the earth,
God then supplied the timber and the knowledge and all of the equipment needed to build the Ark,
(tools, cranes and such.)
God then brought all of the animals from their different countries to the Ark,
God then flooded the earth,
God then fed the animals and Noah for a year while the water was covering the earth,
God then made the water disappear,
God then sent all of the animals back to the countries they had come from,
God then fed the animals and Noah for at least another year because all of the trees and plants were dead,
(they had been under water for a year)
God stopped carnivores (tigers, lions) from eating meat,
God then took Noah's decedents all over the earth and changed them into the different colours and tribes we have today,
And God did all of this, WHY?
answer, God didn't, the 'Flood' story is just that, a story someone made up, to be told to children.
Unless of course you think your God was not very bright, and caused the 'Flood' for fun?
PS. 'God works in mysterious ways' is just another way of saying, 'God doesn't know what he's doing'.
If you think I have got it all wrong, tell me why.
You don't really get what being a Christian is, do you? To be a Christian one is in the process of learning how to trust GOD to meet every need. GOD was presenting Noah with an object lesson. GOD took care of the big things and the little things. GOD was/is in control. The world wastes all its energy trying to solve problems, but excluding GOD all that is accomplished is digging a deeper hole. The other extreeme is to just live like the devil and not care. The end results are pretty much the same.
You don't really get what being a Christian is, do you? To be a Christian one is in the process of learning how to trust GOD to meet every need. GOD was presenting Noah with an object lesson. GOD took care of the big things and the little things. GOD was/is in control. The world wastes all its energy trying to solve problems, but excluding GOD all that is accomplished is digging a deeper hole. The other extreeme is to just live like the devil and not care. The end results are pretty much the same.
BUT! This is the same sort of claim made by many other religions: "Trust in what we say." So, if a Christian or Christianity is sincere about making converts, they have to explain why their religion is worth trusting more than the others. And part of establishing that trust is answering the tough questions. Not glibly side stepping them with time worn phrases like, "Just trust in god," which come off as, "yeah, our religion has problems, but don't pay any attention to them 'cause we don't have the answers."
Go ahead and show us how the Bible proves the Bible pwns my explanation.
Trouble is, it would likely take more than two or three sentences, and I don't think AV1611VET is capable of posting that many to a single question. One sentence responses seem to be his comfort level.
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