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10th November 2003, 07:24 PM
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UNEP estimates that there are 1.25 million species of animals in existence today. According to Gen 6:15, the Noah’s ark was 300x50x30 cubits (450,000 square cubits), which is approximately 450x75x45 feet (1,518,750 square feet). That means fitting 2.5 million animals (2 per species) into 1.5 million square feet. There is no calculated average size of an animal, but even if it were only one square foot, it would only be enough to pack slightly more than half of them all in leaving no room to move, and the problem of where to store the feed for all the animals would remain unsolved. Noah’s ark simply wasn’t big enough to save every known species on the planet. So why do Creationists still insist that it was? |
10th November 2003, 07:27 PM
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It's sad, and I do mean that seriously. I genuinely feel sorry for them.
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10th November 2003, 07:39 PM
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Reps: 314 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Brimstone UNEP estimates that there are 1.25 million species of animals in existence today. According to Gen 6:15, the Noah’s ark was 300x50x30 cubits (450,000 square cubits), which is approximately 450x75x45 feet (1,518,750 square feet). That means fitting 2.5 million animals (2 per species) into 1.5 million square feet. There is no calculated average size of an animal, but even if it were only one square foot, it would only be enough to pack slightly more than half of them all in leaving no room to move, and the problem of where to store the feed for all the animals would remain unsolved. Noah’s ark simply wasn’t big enough to save every known species on the planet. So why do Creationists still insist that it was?
John Woodmorappe has shown it is no problem at all to fit all these on the ark. Of course, he also writes old earth evolutionary articles. I can't figure him out.
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10th November 2003, 08:51 PM
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10th November 2003, 09:37 PM
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Reps: 113 (power: 0) | | | Simply put, both YEC's and OE theistic evolutionists believe that not all those species fit on the ark. Except maybe Hovind.
AIG answered this question. They explained that species did evolve after the flood (they had to have- I mean, there are over 100 million insect species I hear).
I don't know where I stand. By this time, I'm almost completely through with my transition. I'm pretty much a theistic evolutionist now. But I do believe the flood happened- whether it was a global flood or a freak flood that wiped off the people from the earth (which were consequently only living in a small region around the Fertile Crescent at the time according to the Holy Scriptures) I do not know.
Man that was hard to say. |
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10th November 2003, 09:58 PM
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10th November 2003, 10:00 PM
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10th November 2003, 10:09 PM
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Dogs smell, they bark, they relieve themselves on your carpet or you have to keep them outside, and they hate bathing.
Cats just walk up to you when you're working quietly and purrr and meow. I always saw them as more sophisticated animals. TTYL Jesus loves you! |
10th November 2003, 10:19 PM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by JGMEERT John Woodmorappe has shown it is no problem at all to fit all these on the ark. Of course, he also writes old earth evolutionary articles. I can't figure him out.
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Woodmorappe attempts to solve these problems by admitting that evolution occurred after the flood, causing biodiversity. He gives no substantial reason why these processes could not have been going on before the time of the flood. It seems he uses selective reasoning to avoid the core of the issue. | | |
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