I wonder how the Premillennialists explain this verse:
Hebrews 13:14 GB
(14) For here have we no continuing city: but we seek one to come.
Easy......our Hebrews 13 ends at verse 13.
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Here is another interesting verse. What day was the Passover; the day of Jesus' death (that coming evening) or the evening before, when the Lord gave the disciples the Lord's Supper?
John 18:28 GB
(28) Then led they Iesus from Caiaphas into the common hall. Nowe it was morning, and they themselues went not into the common hall, least they should be defiled, but that they might eate the Passeouer.
When the Jews were out preparing their Passover lambs for sacrifice, was the Lord, our Passover Lamb, being sacrificed for us? Or, had the Passover celebration already occured with the Lord celebrating it with His disciples and this verse is a reference to day 2 of the Feast of Unleavened bread?
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Here is another interesting verse. What day was the Passover; the day of Jesus' death (that coming evening) or the evening before, when the Lord gave the disciples the Lord's Supper?
John 18:28 GB
(28) Then led they Iesus from Caiaphas into the common hall. Nowe it was morning, and they themselues went not into the common hall, least they should be defiled, but that they might eate the Passeouer.
When the Jews were out preparing their Passover lambs for sacrifice, was the Lord, our Passover Lamb, being sacrificed for us? Or, had the Passover celebration already occured with the Lord celebrating it with His disciples and this verse is a reference to day 2 of the Feast of Unleavened bread?
Remember that a Jewish day starts at sundown. Therefore the lamb would have been killed the afternoon before the official start of Passover which would have been sundown.
So I believe the Lord celebrated the Last Supper on the evening before Passover. And then He was killed at the time the Passover lamb was being killed for the next evening's meal.
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Here is another interesting verse. What day was the Passover; the day of Jesus' death (that coming evening) or the evening before, when the Lord gave the disciples the Lord's Supper?
John 18:28 GB
(28) Then led they Iesus from Caiaphas into the common hall. Nowe it was morning, and they themselues went not into the common hall, least they should be defiled, but that they might eate the Passeouer.
When the Jews were out preparing their Passover lambs for sacrifice, was the Lord, our Passover Lamb, being sacrificed for us? Or, had the Passover celebration already occured with the Lord celebrating it with His disciples and this verse is a reference to day 2 of the Feast of Unleavened bread?
Have I stumbled into Bible 101?
Passover is a 7 day event. A person must remain clean and undefiled for the duration of passover in order to participate in all the festival.
The passover lamb would have been killed and consumed on the evening of 14 Nisan, the first day of Passover, which would have been the night before the trial.
Passover is a 7 day event. A person must remain clean and undefiled for the duration of passover in order to participate in all the festival.
The passover lamb would have been killed and consumed on the evening of 14 Nisan, the first day of Passover, which would have been the night before the trial.
Perhaps you have stumbled into Bible 101. Yes, I understand that the Feast of the Unleavened Bread is a 7 day celebration, which starts on the evening of the Passover itself. This was my reference to day 2.
However, there is a very real controversy within the church as to whether or not the Lord's supper was also the Passover meal. I have read arguments for both, my last being one by A.T. Robertson.
And, you do bring up 2 interesting points:
#1. Where in all of scripture is the Feast of Unleavened bread referred to as the Passover?
#2. Where are the places in the OT where the requirement was given for purification for all 7 days of the feast?
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Perhaps you have stumbled into Bible 101. Yes, I understand that the Feast of the Unleavened Bread is a 7 day celebration, which starts on the evening of the Passover itself. This was my reference to day 2.
However, there is a very real controversy within the church as to whether or not the Lord's supper was also the Passover meal. I have read arguments for both, my last being one by A.T. Robertson.
I believe much of the controversy/confusion which surrounds Passover is the fact that this Feast contains more than 1 Sabbath. And I believe if the Passover begins on a Saturday evening, it contains 3 Sabbaths (the first and last day of the feast are marked as a Sabbath and then you have the regular Sabbath beginning at sundown on Friday). It gets rather confusing.
You have to pay close attention to the wording in Scripture. The day before each Sabbath is viewed as a day of preparation, since no work is allowed on the Sabbath. It is my understanding that Jesus did partake of the Passover feast and that the "day of preparation", which is mentioned in Scripture at the time of His trial/crucifixion/burial, is the day of preparation for the regular Sabbath.
And, you do bring up 2 interesting points:
#1. Where in all of scripture is the Feast of Unleavened bread referred to as the Passover?
Exodus 12
#2. Where are the places in the OT where the requirement was given for purification for all 7 days of the feast?
Leviticus 15:1-18
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I wonder how the Premillennialists explain this verse:
Hebrews 13:14 GB
(14) For here have we no continuing city: but we seek one to come
Have you ever read The Pilgram's Progress by John Bunyan?
It seems to be a reference the the Celestial City (the one to come) and the City of Destruction (not lasting).
"Haste and escape for your lives, look not behind you, escape to the mountain, lest you be consumed." (Edwards, Angry God) [Cross reference with p. 4 of Pilgram's Progress]
Genesis 19 17 And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth abroad, that he said, Escape for thy life; look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed.
So, I don't think it has anything to do with The Millenium
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