Oxnard student declared brain dead

Thou sayeth. There's nothing "unBiblical" or "UnChristian" about what Phelps and his minions say.

The paper in effect is not saying any of that, the paper presented some ideas based upon interviews with various folks, students, police etc.

Please point me to the places in the quoted article where the paper made these statements.

It is not the medias job to speculate. It is the job of the media to report the facts. None of their "conclusions" are facts, and are simply sensationalism for the sake of selling papers and promoting their liberal agenda.Everything after paragraph # 10. None of the quotes they use indicate this was a "hate crime" aimed at a gay student. Not by his classmates, not by the police, not by the school administration. No one in an official capacity said "This was a hate crime." But the LA Times doesn't let that lack of factual basis stand in the way of a sensational fabrication.

They didn't report conclusions they reported what people said.

If the suspect targeted King because of his sexual orientation, the case could rise to the level of a hate crime, authorities said.

"He would come to school in high-heeled boots, makeup, jewelry and painted nails -- the whole thing," said Michael Sweeney, 13, an eighth-grader. "That was freaking the guys out."

If someone's freaked out by that, then they should go see a psychologist. We're not living in a world of clones, so some people should understand that not everyone in the world is like them...

If you read the story, you come away with the impression that this was a hate crime, even though no one in an official capactiy even hinted at that. There was no point to reporting the kids alleged sexual orientation, except to sensationalize the story and get activists excited.

The story is not a story without the innuendos, suppositions, and speculations, such as:I love this quote. It isn't attributed to anyone except the ubiquitous "authorities" which probably means no one actually said it, it's just common knowledge and the paper reported it as though it is a major consideration in the case. How do we know the kid didn't steal someone's watch or cuss out the guy he had the argument with? We don't.

The fact is, he probably was targeted for his behavior and manner of dress. But since no one in the investigation, or the school district said that, the paper had to build their story on innuendo abd supposition. If they didn't use those disingenuous tactics, they end the story at paragraph # 10, it winds up on page 35 next to a mattress ad and nothing is ever said about it again.

Is he any more dead than he would be if he was the starting quarterback for the football team dating the head cheerleader? It was not important that the kid behaved nd dressed in bizarre manners, and "might have been" practicing homosexual behaviors. That also is not a fact in evidence. No one said "He was gay." It is all speculation. The tragedy is that he's dead, it appears another kid killed him, and that kid needs to be held accountable for that murder and suffer the consequences. That is all that matters and it is irresponsible for a journalistic organ to publish a story that is half wild-eyed imagination, even if circumstantial evidence points in that general direction.

One can make excuses for the media if they wish, but people need to start realizing their perceptions, emotions and decisions are being manipulated every single day by this kind of garbage. Journalists are supposed to report, not manipulate.

You want to show me where I said that? That's a complete and total fabrication, a complete misrepresentation of my post. My exact statement is that Phelps' views are "obnoxious and unbiblical."

Your bias obviously clouds your perceptions. You equate Fred Phelps' obnoxious and unbiblical view with the view of every Christian. You're wrong. You're steeping your own views in hate brewed at the polar opposite of what you think others believe, and that's no more moral or healthy than Phelps' nonsense.

You've just proven yourself unable to hold a discussion. Good day.

... he was Gay ...

This proves my point. Please cut-and-paste into a post the line in the story that quotes a police officer, a school administrator, or one of his friends as saying the victim was gay.

The teenager sometimes wore feminine clothing and makeup, and proclaimed he was gay, students said.

"He would come to school in high-heeled boots, makeup, jewelry and painted nails -- the whole thing," said Michael Sweeney, 13, an eighth-grader. "That was freaking the guys out."