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16th February 2008, 02:18 AM
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Reps: 57,067 (power: 63) | | Originally Posted by sethad  A black person gets murdered....moral is..don't be black?
Hispanic person gets harrassed....moral is...don't be Hispanic?
A woman gets raped....moral is....don't be a woman?
You are defending an attempted murder. I don't think I understand your line of thinking. A white person gets murdered... And... If this country wasn't led by white men,
conservative Jewish men and black men, like Clarence Thomas, it would make Sierra Leone look like Shamayim.
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16th February 2008, 10:50 AM
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Reps: 565,071 (power: 571) | | Originally Posted by IisJustMe Assuming he's found guilty, amen! Many of the people on this thread are guilty of the same or worse than the LA Times.
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16th February 2008, 10:53 AM
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Reps: 565,071 (power: 571) | | Originally Posted by CGL If it were the other way around,
people would sympathize with the
culprit.
This bastard who shot the poor kid
should be thrown in prison for life, yes.
But, If a gay kid was harassed and decided
to shoot a hetero, white male in the head
there would be less venom directed towards
the perp'.
Justifying
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16th February 2008, 10:56 AM
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Excusing
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16th February 2008, 11:08 AM
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Reps: 34,265,055 (power: 34,283) | | Originally Posted by Trevorocity defending Originally Posted by Trevorocity Excusing
Whatever, Trev. Pursue you agenda elsewhere. There is no debating in this forum. What part of "If he's guilty, put him in prison" did you fail to grasp from what I count as being at least eight participants here/
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16th February 2008, 11:12 AM
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Reps: 565,071 (power: 571) | | BTW you have GOT to be kidding right? It would be the lead on every major news channel (a la: Fox News, CNN, etc) for one thing. Then the "Christian" news services would call for the kid's crucifixtion and would immediately blame activist homosexuals and the inheirent "sinfulness" of the "homosexual lifestyle". Originally Posted by CGL If it were the other way around,
people would sympathize with the
culprit.
This bastard who shot the poor kid
should be thrown in prison for life, yes.
But, If a gay kid was harassed and decided
to shoot a hetero, white male in the head
there would be less venom directed towards
the perp'.
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16th February 2008, 11:19 AM
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Reps: 34,265,055 (power: 34,283) | | Originally Posted by Trevorocity BTW you have GOT to be kidding right? It would be the lead on every major news channel (a la: Fox News, CNN, etc) for one thing. Then the "Christian" news services would call for the kid's crucifixtion and would immediately blame activist homosexuals and the inheirent "sinfulness" of the "homosexual lifestyle".
Your bias obviously clouds your perceptions. You equate Fred Phelps' obnoxious and unbiblical view with the view of every Christian. You're wrong. You're steeping your own views in hate brewed at the polar opposite of what you think others believe, and that's no more moral or healthy than Phelps' nonsense.
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16th February 2008, 12:02 PM
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Reps: 57,067 (power: 63) | | Originally Posted by IisJustMe Your bias obviously clouds your perceptions. You equate Fred Phelps' obnoxious and unbiblical view with the view of every Christian. You're wrong. You're steeping your own views in hate brewed at the polar opposite of what you think others believe, and that's no more moral or healthy than Phelps' nonsense. Thank you, sir.
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16th February 2008, 12:43 PM
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Reps: 565,071 (power: 571) | | Thou sayeth. There's nothing "unBiblical" or "UnChristian" about what Phelps and his minions say. He makes good use of the "No true Scotsman" fallacy in his protests, that's what makes him such a hilarious Poe.
When it is boiled down everything he says is just a less polite version of what every far-right denomination of Christianity is saying. I happen to think Phelps is an actor hired by homosexual activists. Hired purely to expose the heinous viewpoints of religionists here in America.
Do you remember whos' funerals Phelps first protested? Oh no, it wasn't dead Marines. It was 'teh Gheys' such as: Matthew Shepard. There were of course no demands from Right-wingers for laws restricting freedom of speech then because we all know they tacitly approved of what Phelps was doing. Originally Posted by IisJustMe Your bias obviously clouds your perceptions. You equate Fred Phelps' obnoxious and unbiblical view with the view of every Christian. You're wrong. You're steeping your own views in hate brewed at the polar opposite of what you think others believe, and that's no more moral or healthy than Phelps' nonsense.
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16th February 2008, 01:08 PM
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Reps: 172,174,023,564,451 (power: 172,174,023,603) | | Originally Posted by IisJustMe T
The paper is in effect saying, "He acted gay and said he was gay, so the fact there was an argument the day before (which must have been because he acts and says he's gay) might be what got him killed." None of those statements can be taken as fact. The paper is completely outside the bounds of responsible journalism is publishing this crap.
The paper in effect is not saying any of that, the paper presented some ideas based upon interviews with various folks, students, police etc.
Please point me to the places in the quoted article where the paper made these statements.
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