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Unread 10th February 2008, 03:39 PM
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Are Anglicans Protestants?

Genuine question, not being flippant.

The church of england was founded as a state religion (under Henry 8) that initially followed catholic practice, and was reformed later (under Elizabeth I).

It was never a 'protesting' church like the other reformed churches.

Are anglican's protestants in that sense. In the sense that baptists, puritains, etc are.
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Originally Posted by sago View Post
Genuine question, not being flippant.

The church of england was founded as a state religion (under Henry 8) that initially followed catholic practice, and was reformed later (under Elizabeth I).

It was never a 'protesting' church like the other reformed churches.

Are anglican's protestants in that sense. In the sense that baptists, puritains, etc are.
Sago,

What is your understanding of a "protesting" church? A church that is turning against the state, one that demands separation of state and church? In that sense almost none of the churches of the Reformation are Protestant, neither Anglicans, nor Lutherans, nor Calvinist - including Puritan - churches. All of them established something like a state church, indeed they specifically replaced the authority of the Pope over church matters with the authority of the rulers of the state.

Also note where the word Protestant comes from. Quote from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant

"The word Protestant is derived from the Latin protestatio meaning declaration which refers to the letter of protestation by Lutheran princes against the decision of the Diet of Speyer in 1529, which reaffirmed the edict of the Diet of Worms against the Reformation."

What I am trying to get at is: It was the PRINCES who protested. Not the church. No separation of state and church there.
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True, one of the things that the Romans get blasted for, ultimate rule even in affairs of state, were clearly practiced by those who later seperated themselves from Rome, like the Puritans. This is clearly seen when the people of Geneva declared they replaced the Pope with a far greater tyrant.

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True, one of the things that the Romans get blasted for, ultimate rule even in affairs of state, were clearly practiced by those who later seperated themselves from Rome, like the Puritans.
True. As an example, 26 Church of England bishops sit in Parliament.
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Originally Posted by sago View Post
Genuine question, not being flippant.

The church of england was founded as a state religion (under Henry 8) that initially followed catholic practice, and was reformed later (under Elizabeth I).

It was never a 'protesting' church like the other reformed churches.

Are anglican's protestants in that sense. In the sense that baptists, puritains, etc are.


If anyone would like to read a fascinating book about Britain during and after the Reformation, it's called "Protestant Reformation in England and Ireland" by William Cobbett. Cobbett was a Protestant and he wrote this book in 1824.

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Until the nineteenth century those who dissented from state churches such as the Church of England were known as Dissenters or NonConformists. That included Puritans, Quakers, Baptists, Congregationalists, Presbyterians, Methodists, Roman Catholics, Jews, and any other faith that did not give allegiance to the state church. In England these people were generally persecuted in one form or another.
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May be you had better read Five English Reformers by J C Ryle.
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originally I believe so.

There's a number of present day anglican churches though that are very wrong in their theology
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One of the big differences was that during the English Reformation, the hierarchy of the English Church joined the king in breaking with Rome. Thus there was no need to overthrow the episcopacy since it assented to the change. The other difference was that it was not founded upon the theology of one man or a few men (a la Luther, Zwingli, and Calvin) but went about at a more careful pace in tossing off what it considered abuses. At times, more Protestant beliefs and practices have had the upper hands and at others more Catholic ones. Assuming you have not entered a revisionist parish (like most in the Episcopal Church), you could enter one parish and get the impression that Anglicanism is Reformed with a classier liturgy and go a few miles down the road and think Anglicanism is Catholicism without a pope. It is this range that has at times been a strength and at others been a decided weakness.
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Anglicans are not Protestant because they had their own Catholic bishop before King Henry existed. Maybe there was a British bishop before the Roman Catholic Church split from the Orthodox Catholic Church.
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