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8th November 2003, 05:38 PM
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Reps: 25 (power: 0) | | | As I haven't quite worked out how to quote yet, I've had to put this in by hand:
"Murray, here's something to help you out with your faith.
The OT is fine and good, but you should always live by the NT. The NT stresses love and sacrifice. If you have those covered, you're fine."
You raise a very good point. We don't always have all the answers, and it is far more important to rely on faith, and to keep praying. |
8th November 2003, 05:41 PM
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Reps: 207 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by MurrayduPlessis Evolution seems to be one of those subjects which initially appears to contradict The Bible and Church traditional teaching...e.g. The Earth apparantly at the centre of the universe, with the sun rotating around it. The fact that The Bible doesn't really talk about evolution doesn't help.
Do you take the creation story in Genesis literally, or do you believe that "a day" as written in Genesis, could relate to thousands of our years, which would have given us enough time to evolve from simple organisms? Somebody told me that the Hebrew word for "day" just means "Period of time".
Its clear that Genesis is not about God's *methods*, otherwise it would have included a complete description of the laws of physics, etc. The truth in Genesis comes from the *theological meaning* embedded in it. If God has given us a disseration on general relativity and evolution, then that theology would have been lost on everyone. Not to mention the fact that the average person, even today, wouldn't be able to grasp a word of it.
OECs often point to scriptures that say that God's notion of time is not like ours (in the day, etc)...but then they weave a complicated historical account around the scriptures...which once again, is missing the point.
In fact, if you examine the context under which the writers wrote those scriptures, there are some historians that argue that even the writers recognized the text as metaphorical (although there is certainly some dispute about this). Whatever the writers may have thought, its clear that God chose language and images that they could be familiar with and connect with...and Jesus does the same in His parables. God wants to keep things simple, and thats why Genesis is brilliantly composed.  |
8th November 2003, 05:42 PM
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Reps: 14 (power: 0) | | | I hear i.e. read the hiss of the serpent when I read the words of that one Jet Black! Eviloution is utter & complete nonsense as a scientific discipline. The only support scientifically which it has is the deciet & dishonesty of the Eviloutionists from the ivory towers of biased academia to their co-conspiritos in the media. Eviloution is a TOTAL fraud! |
8th November 2003, 05:44 PM
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8th November 2003, 05:44 PM
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Reps: 207 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by MurrayduPlessis You raise a very good point. We don't always have all the answers, and it is far more important to rely on faith, and to keep praying.
And this is what Jesus says when He says to accept our faith 'like a child'. Its interesting that the more we know...the harder that becomes. (Interesting ties to Genesis when you think about it). |
8th November 2003, 05:47 PM
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Reps: 207 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by obediah001 I hear i.e. read the hiss of the serpent when I read the words of that one Jet Black! Eviloution is utter & complete nonsense as a scientific discipline. The only support scientifically which it has is the deciet & dishonesty of the Eviloutionists from the ivory towers of biased academia to their co-conspiritos in the media. Eviloution is a TOTAL fraud!
obediah001, you don't know what you are talking about. The Bible speaks quite forcefully against these kinds of judgements. Why are you making them?
Romans 14:1
Now accept the one who is weak in faith, but not for the purpose of passing judgment on his opinions. |
8th November 2003, 05:49 PM
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Reps: 33,621 (power: 54) | | Originally Posted by obediah001 I hear i.e. read the hiss of the serpent when I read the words of that one Jet Black! Eviloution is utter & complete nonsense as a scientific discipline. The only support scientifically which it has is the deciet & dishonesty of the Eviloutionists from the ivory towers of biased academia to their co-conspiritos in the media. Eviloution is a TOTAL fraud!
Can you name one book on evolution that you have read and give us the jist of it and why you believe it is a total fraud? |
8th November 2003, 05:51 PM
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8th November 2003, 05:53 PM
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8th November 2003, 05:53 PM
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Reps: 1,417 (power: 10) | | Originally Posted by MartinM Thanks to Obediah for showing our inquisitive friend what creationists are like.
are you saying you did not previously know what creationists were like?
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