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Right, because none of us have ever encountered the pseudoscience from the ICR. You just keep telling yourself that.
Well, are you going to listen to him when he tells you evolution is true?
No, he'd probably call Jesus a False Messiah.
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He reaches in his pocket and pulls out a penny. "See -- I'm a billionaire."
You're still skeptical. 'What does that prove?', you ask.
"I'M A BILLIONAIRE" he states loudly (obviously annoyed that you would question him). He reaches in another pocket and pulls out another penny, "Do you believe me now?"
The opposite truth has been affirmed by innumerable cases of measurable evolution at this minimal scale-but, to be visible at all over so short a span, evolution must be far too rapid (and transient) to serve as the basis for major transformations in geological time. Hence, the “paradox of the visibly irrelevant”-or, if you can see it at all, it’s too fast to matter in the long run. ~ Stephen Jay Gould
By observable, I do not mean watching a wing sprout out of the side of a animal, while we watch. I am talking about gradual changes over many, many millenia but OBSERVABLE through the fossil record. have you checked it out?
And what in the world is this Billionaire stuff you keep spouting? What does that have to do with evolution? I do not see a connection, at all.
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And what in the world is this Billionaire stuff you keep spouting? What does that have to do with evolution? I do not see a connection, at all.
His attempted analogy is that the evidence for evolution is so flimsy that it's the equivilant of a billionaire trying to prove his wealth with a penny.
However, I don't think bevets knows enough about the evidence for evolution to understand why it has been accepted by mainstream science for the last 150 years or so.
__________________ Creationism has not made a single contribution to agriculture, medicine, conservation, forestry, pathology, or any other applied area of biology. Creationism has yielded no classifications, no biogeographies, no underlying mechanisms, no unifying concepts with which to study organisms or life. - Botanical Society of America's Statement on Evolution
Ever seen a human with purple eyes? Green hair? Six fingers? There's a good reason for that.
Um, yeah actually. A friend's baby was born with six fingers (This condition is called hexadactyly, and yes I did have to look it up!) This is usually corrected by surgery. I have seen people with green hair but that is usually a hairdressing accident or a style statement...
Green hair can also come from being blonde and long exposure to chlorine, however, I would guess that no one has green hair the the same reason no one has green skin, we didn't evolve that way.
This isn't the first time he's trolled with this very same nonsense.
It isn't the only board either. The Beliefnet Creation-Evolution board is getting the benefit of all this good stuff at the moment too.
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It isn't the only board either. The Beliefnet Creation-Evolution board is getting the benefit of all this good stuff at the moment too.
No kidding, eh? So basically this guy is a spammer as well as a troll.
He must be an atheist in disguise, because he sure isn't doing creationism any favors.
__________________ Creationism has not made a single contribution to agriculture, medicine, conservation, forestry, pathology, or any other applied area of biology. Creationism has yielded no classifications, no biogeographies, no underlying mechanisms, no unifying concepts with which to study organisms or life. - Botanical Society of America's Statement on Evolution
It isn't the only board either. The Beliefnet Creation-Evolution board is getting the benefit of all this good stuff at the moment too.
Is there a rule that people can only participate on one forum? How did someone find out that I was posting on more than one forum?
Originally Posted by Pete Harcoff
No kidding, eh? So basically this guy is a spammer as well as a troll.
"Visit any forum and it doesnt take long to see atheists patting themselves on their backs for their superior rationality but resorting to argument ad hominem and changing the subject rather than confront the evidence."
When you have no basis for an argument, abuse the plaintiff. ~ Cicero
Originally Posted by Pete Harcoff
He must be an atheist in disguise, because he sure isn't doing creationism any favors.
Name some people who are doing creationism some favors.
Is there a rule that people can only participate on one forum?
No. Did I say there was?
__________________ "Sadly, biblical literalism brings not only the bible but Christianity itself into disrepute." - The Rt. Revd. Richard Harries, Anglican Bishop of Oxford.
"Visit any forum and it doesnt take long to see atheists patting themselves on their backs for their superior rationality but resorting to argument ad hominem and changing the subject rather than confront the evidence."
Myself and others have already responded to your posts, including asking you a few questions. You've mostly ignored what people have posted in favor of repeating your diatribe from the OP ad nauseum. Repetition does not win arguments. You have all the hallmarks of an Internet troll and hence you are labelled as such.
Furthermore, cross-posting the exact same posts in multiple forums qualifies as spam in my books.
Name some people who are doing creationism some favors.
TrueCreation. I'm seen him actively engaging in discussions about topics that most YECs favor to ignore. Also, I had an email discussion with a poster from here called tyreth, who again was more open to a discussion about the issues regarding YEC. Also geologist Kurt Wise, because he is at least honest enough to admit his particular beliefs don't jive with the geological evidence in the Earth.
__________________ Creationism has not made a single contribution to agriculture, medicine, conservation, forestry, pathology, or any other applied area of biology. Creationism has yielded no classifications, no biogeographies, no underlying mechanisms, no unifying concepts with which to study organisms or life. - Botanical Society of America's Statement on Evolution
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