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5th December 2003, 04:52 PM
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Calvin, that essay is bunk. No offense, but I can't help but to sense the irony when someone attempts to debunk basic scientific beliefs shared by 99.5% of the scientific community with an essay containing a system of fringe beliefs shared by .5%. Simply find one university-level biology/geology/geomorphology/hydrology/chemistry texbook that is consistent with the convictions in that essay.
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5th December 2003, 08:07 PM
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Reps: 207 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Mr_Coffee Wow. Some people are very dedicated to their convictions.
Calvin, that essay is bunk. No offense, but I can't help but to sense the irony when someone attempts to debunk basic scientific beliefs shared by 99.5% of the scientific community with an essay containing a system of fringe beliefs shared by .5%. Simply find one university-level biology/geology/geomorphology/hydrology/chemistry texbook that is consistent with the convictions in that essay.
That won't stop him from posting lists of scientists who have reservations about evolution in order to misrepresent the scientific community as a whole. If you go through the posts, you will find that misrepresentation is what Calvin does best. He is doing good work in a sense: He is showing us that the attempts to falsify evolution so far from the creationist camp, amount to nothing but an elaborate fairy tale. I hope he apprecieates the irony.
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5th December 2003, 08:20 PM
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Reps: 24 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Calvin 4. The temperature of the earth is too high for a planet 4.5 billion
years old. Based on known concentrations of radioactive material in the
earth and the heat generated from their decay, which slows down the
cooling process, the earth cannot be much more than 100 million years
old. Dr. Harold Slusher, a geophysicist and professor of nuclear physics
at the University of Texas at El Paso has written a very rigorous,
mathematical study on this entitled Age of the Earth.
--Please better substantiate this. I have no idea how such a conclusion could be drawn, especially if based on known concentrations of radioisotopes in the earth. Over 75% of the earth's heat is due to radioisotopic decay, and a mere 25% is due to secular cooling.
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5th December 2003, 09:36 PM
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How do you know this? Where are you getting your information on what academia wants and doesn't want, and what the motives might be?
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5th December 2003, 09:47 PM
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at the University of Texas at El Paso has written a very rigorous,
mathematical study on this entitled Age of the Earth.
It can't be all that rigorous; he's the guy who's supporting the argument that moon dust is too thin for the solar system to be ancient - all the fancy maths in the world doesn't alter the fact that he was dead wrong.
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5th December 2003, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by bevets
Evolution is an elaborate fairy tale propigated by atheists.
Exactly right. I'm a little ashamed to admit this but, for a short time, I was an evolutionist. I accepted the claims of some scientists that evolution had been proven. Fortunately I started looking into the evolution hypothesis. I quickly found out that it is nothing more than a religion (a belief system) posing as science. It is sad that some of us Christians fall for this fairy tale, but there is always hope for those who are willing to invest some time to research the facts.
A good place to start is the ARN message board. I'm "nobody" over there. Here's the link: http://arn.org/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi
As a Humo(u)rist, I'd like to encourage any of you who enjoy a good laugh (or any of you who can make us laugh) to drop in and say hello to us in the Humo(u)r Forum.
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5th December 2003, 11:49 PM
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Reps: 9,311,669,886,675,212 (power: 9,311,669,886,693) | | Originally Posted by JunkYardFrog Exactly right. I'm a little ashamed to admit this but, for a short time, I was an evolutionist. I accepted the claims of some scientists that evolution had been proven. Fortunately I started looking into the evolution hypothesis. I quickly found out that it is nothing more than a religion (a belief system) posing as science. It is sad that some of us Christians fall for this fairy tale, but there is always hope for those who are willing to invest some time to research the facts.
I find this testimony hard to believe.
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6th December 2003, 12:08 AM
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How is evolution a religion, anymore than heliocentrism? Originally Posted by JunkYardFrog Exactly right. I'm a little ashamed to admit this but, for a short time, I was an evolutionist. I accepted the claims of some scientists that evolution had been proven. Fortunately I started looking into the evolution hypothesis. I quickly found out that it is nothing more than a religion (a belief system) posing as science. It is sad that some of us Christians fall for this fairy tale, but there is always hope for those who are willing to invest some time to research the facts.
A good place to start is the ARN message board. I'm "nobody" over there. Here's the link: http://arn.org/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi
As a Humo(u)rist, I'd like to encourage any of you who enjoy a good laugh (or any of you who can make us laugh) to drop in and say hello to us in the Humo(u)r Forum.
Thanks and God bless.
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6th December 2003, 12:22 AM
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6th December 2003, 12:33 AM
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Reps: 307 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Lucaspa Ooohhh, I would buy a ticket to watch!!
__________________ None of the gods love wisdom or desire to become wise, for they are wise already -- nor if someone else is wise, do they love wisdom. Neither do the ignorant love wisdom or desire to become wise; for this is the grievous thing about ignorance, that those who are neither good nor beautiful nor sensible think they are good enough, and do not desire that which they do not think they are lacking.
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