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Yes, I too would like to know about this mechanism. Maybe you can start a new thread explaining exactly what limits speciation.

Originally Posted by drfeelgood
The theory that man evolved from an amoeba is, of course, bunk. I will not dispute that.

However, there is no reason to disbelieve in speciation. All species can speciate within certain parameters as set out within their genetic code.
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Again, show us your evidence to back up the claims and accusations.

Hmm, I guess science could not prove you were born, since I doubt it is repeatable in the lab, Oh well, sorry, science says you dont exist.

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A Parable:
"I'M A BILLIONAIRE" he states loudly (obviously annoyed that you would question him).

Visit any forum and it doesnt take long to see atheists patting themselves on their backs for their superior rationality but resorting to argument ad hominem and changing the subject rather than confront the evidence.


You should not confuse evolution with science.

The question of origins is a question of History (whatever happened only happened once) not science.

Please explain how the scientific method applys. i.e. observe, predict, experiment, repeat -- how do we repeat ANCIENT (pre human) history? Here's a helpful suggestion repeat the transition from reptile to bird in a lab (that would be fascinating!) After you have repeated this transition, explain why your lab experiment proves that this is EXACTLY how it happened historically.

Only in your wildest fantasies.


Here's a tip: Cite a specific quote and then demonstrate why it is not accurate.
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Originally Posted by bevets
Here's a helpful suggestion repeat the transition from reptile to bird in a lab (that would be fascinating!)
This proves that you know **** about evolution and how it works.Im too tired to explain right now, but im sure the others here will rip it to shreds
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You should not confuse evolution with science.

The question of origins is a question of History (whatever happened only happened once) not science.

Please explain how the scientific method applys. i.e. observe, predict, experiment, repeat -- how do we repeat ANCIENT (pre human) history? Here's a helpful suggestion repeat the transition from reptile to bird in a lab (that would be fascinating!) After you have repeated this transition, explain why your lab experiment proves that this is EXACTLY how it happened historically.




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Hmm, I guess science could not prove you were born, since I doubt it is repeatable in the lab, Oh well, sorry, science says you dont exist.
In stark contrast to evolution, there are human witnesses that can attest to my birth.
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This proves that you know **** about evolution and how it works.Im too tired to explain right now
Im sure you are. Pleasant dreams.
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how did humans evolve emotion? or sin for that matter?
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Originally Posted by bevets
In stark contrast to evolution, there are human witnesses that can attest to my birth.
How do you know they're not part of the Grand Atheist Conspiracy (TM) and that you weren't grown in a test tube?

(Of course, that's just a cover for the fact that the world is nothing more than an elaborate computer simulation run by machines. Which in turn, is a cover for the fact that THAT world is controlled by Iggy, the magic Elf.)
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Originally Posted by bevets
Im sure you are. Pleasant dreams.
One last question: Could you give me your definition of evolution?
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You never said anything about witnesses, you said "repeat in lab"
So your witnesses dont work. However, if they do work, then that means evidence can be brought in that shows an event happend in the past, in which case, evolution has plenty of that.

Originally Posted by bevets
You should not confuse evolution with science.

The question of origins is a question of History (whatever happened only happened once) not science.

Please explain how the scientific method applys. i.e. observe, predict, experiment, repeat -- how do we repeat ANCIENT (pre human) history? Here's a helpful suggestion repeat the transition from reptile to bird in a lab (that would be fascinating!) After you have repeated this transition, explain why your lab experiment proves that this is EXACTLY how it happened historically.





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Originally Posted by MartinM
Perhaps you can explain something to me. It's something I've never really got an answer to from a creationist.

If you accept that two groups of organisms can become reproductively isolated, then the mutations in one gene pool will not be transferred to the other. So, the genetic difference between the two groups will increase.

What mechanism do you propose to prevent this difference from becoming arbitrarily large?
Ever seen a human with purple eyes? Green hair? Six fingers? There's a good reason for that.
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