Evolution is an elaborate fairy tale

It's not the "evidence for" that counts. It's the evidence against. True statements can't have false consequences. And there is simply mountains of evidence that simply can't be there if a world-wide Flood happened. This was recognized finally in 1831 when Rev. Adam Sedgwick, when he stepped down as President of the Royal Geological Society, finally acknowledged that the Flood had never happened.

Actually, Noah's flood does NOT explain the absence of dinosaurs. If Noah took 2 of every animal aboard the Ark, where are the dinosaurs? The Bible doesn't mention any of those animals going extinct after the Flood.


Mike is getting the true meaning of the Bible. Notice that Mike is not denying any of the theology. And the Bible is about theology. So Mike is affirming the Bible as true. It is creationism that makes the Bible false.

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"If sound science appears to contradict the Bible, we may be sure that it is our interpretation of the Bible that is at fault." Christian Observer, 1832, pg. 437

"Christians should look on evolution simply as the method by which God works." Rev. James McCosh, theologian and President of Princeton, 1890

I don't believe that is true (regarding the flood). I do know that the bulk of the evidence is to the contrary. Perhaps you should read the papers that sit on both sides of the issue and judge for yourself which account is most plausible.

I am not explaining away the scriptures, and I don't apprecieate the accusation. Is there any part of the flood theology that we disagree on as Christians? Does the fact of the historical accuracy of a literal interpretation change in any way the fact that I choose to accept Christ and reject sin in a spirit of humbleness and humility?

All I am offering is a theological interpretation of the flood. If you want to believe it was a historical event...then feel free. But what does this have to do with salvation? My point is that if we find data that indicates that the global flood did not occur (which we have), then it may simply be the case that some people have mistaken allegory for history (when God may have intended it to be allegory). If the flood is allegorical, that does not falsify Christianity...as you seem to believe.

Sorry greeker, but the flood does not explain the extinction of the dinosaurs either scientifically or biblically. Scientifically speaking, there is no evidence that indicates that the dinosaurs were killed in a flood 6000 years ago. And biblically, why weren't there two of every kind of dinosaur on the ark?

In order for you to support your theory, you would have to modify both the data in the fossil record, and also the Biblical account of the flood. I think its clear who is explaining away things without any basis whatsoever: YEC 'science'.

I do not deny the Bible. I have come to accept Christ even though I believe that the events of Genesis may not be literal history (but theologically true). I do reject the notion that a non-literal interpretation falsifies the Bible and Christianity. And I would be very thankful if the literalists would stop insisting that if science is right, then Christianity is wrong. Who gives them such authority?

Is that another expession for "Stop spamming the board(!)"?
In other words, you don't want to hear my view because my view threatens the HM-house (Humanist Manifesto).
To me, that would be unfair and fascist, but if you don't want me to post here i won't. I don't want a fight, i just an intelligent conversation.
But that would offend the HM-house and the powers of the ACLU. So i better not say anything because you are protected by law, and if i offend you by saying something you don't like you can sue me and put me in jail.
Don't worry,
I know the rules of the HM-house.
The HM-house has many training camps and this is one of them.
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And the Christian says, Darwin

FEZZ replies

FEZZ says worship Jesus


Worship the creator and not the creature.

So... anyone who disagrees with you is not a Christian in your eyes?

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Creationism has not made a single contribution to agriculture, medicine, conservation, forestry, pathology, or any other applied area of biology. Creationism has yielded no classifications, no biogeographies, no underlying mechanisms, no unifying concepts with which to study organisms or life. - Botanical Society of America's Statement on Evolution

That's what we all want. Put up or shut up. Your call.

Its not whether or not you disagree with me or not. The question is whether you really disagree with the bible.
There is no way i consider a man a christian who blasphemes the word of God by saying that it is fallible.

Look up Isaiah 40:22, Job 26:7.
Then tell me the bible is fallible.

or maybe i should say, a man that teaches that satanism teaches better doctrine than the bible.
Satanism teaches that evolution is how it happened.
Why would God bless both Moses and LaVey?.........!!

But how do you know your interpretation of the Bible is the correct one?

See, I read that as, "there is no way i consider a man Christain who disagrees with my interpretation of the Bible". After all, that's all you have: a Biblical interpretation that has been written, translated and interpreted by fallible men.

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Creationism has not made a single contribution to agriculture, medicine, conservation, forestry, pathology, or any other applied area of biology. Creationism has yielded no classifications, no biogeographies, no underlying mechanisms, no unifying concepts with which to study organisms or life. - Botanical Society of America's Statement on Evolution

Actually, biology teaches that evolution is how it happened. But if you consider biology = satanism... Wanna buy a tinfoil hat?

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Creationism has not made a single contribution to agriculture, medicine, conservation, forestry, pathology, or any other applied area of biology. Creationism has yielded no classifications, no biogeographies, no underlying mechanisms, no unifying concepts with which to study organisms or life. - Botanical Society of America's Statement on Evolution

So you have fallible man reading infallible text. Do you claim to have a perfect understanding of the scriptures, yes or no?