It follows then just as the result of a single transgression is a condemnation which to the whole race, so also is the result of a single degree of righteousness is a life giving acquittal which extends to the whole race.
Wouldn't you have to admit that through Christ's sacrifice, all men are now inherently sinless?
But if one man's sin was inherently imparted to everyone else, then why wouldn't one man's righteousness be inherently imparted to everyone else? Isn't that what the text plainly teaches?
But if one man's sin was inherently imparted to everyone else, then why wouldn't one man's righteousness be inherently imparted to everyone else? Isn't that what the text plainly teaches?
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Because that one man was God's son Jesus; who was pre ordain before the foundation of the earth; God had a savior before he had a sinner. It is all part of god's plan for all humanity...
1 Peter 1:19but with the precious blood of Christ,
as of a lamb without blemish and without spot. 20 He
indeed was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you 21who through Him believe in God, who raised Him from the dead and gave Him glory, so that your faith and hope are in God.
Revelation 13:8
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him,
whose names are not written in the book of life of the
Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Because that one man was God's son Jesus; who was pre ordain before the foundation of the earth; God had a savior before he had a sinner. It is all part of god's plan for all humanity..
So how come we aren't all inherently sinless now that Christ offered Himself up as a sacrifice?
"Because He is God" or "Because we are born in sin" doesn't really answer my question based on the Romans 5 passage you provided.
Because only those who answer the call of Christ will be counted as his flock. We are saved by grace, through faith. Therefore, those who are faithful and having been offered the grace of God will be redeemed from their sins.
Because only those who answer the call of Christ will be counted as his flock.
So if righteousness is not automatically inherited, but rather takes action by either God (SovGrc) or us (Armin); then sin isn't inherited either. Rather it takes an action for each person to become a sinner.
Look at the balance of the text. Either sin & righteousness are both automatically inherited, or neither are. My original question is asking how you guys reconcile this.
So if righteousness is not automatically inherited, but rather takes action by either God (SovGrc) or us (Armin); then sin isn't inherited either. Rather it takes an action for each person to become a sinner.
Look at the balance of the text. Either sin & righteousness are both automatically inherited, or neither are. My original question is asking how you guys reconcile this.
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Did you ever notice while living here on earth our Lord was extremely kind. He picked up little children and blessed them. He healed all who were suffering with pain. While relatives were weeping over dead loved ones, He raised four of them to life again. The Saviour of all men said to the woman caught in adultery, “Neither do I condemn you; go and sin no more” (Jn. 8:11). His kindness made an evangelist out of the wicked woman at the well (Jn. 4:29). Because Jesus really loved the weak, helpless creatures whom He had created, He wept over them, prayed for them and taught them continually. Except those religious Pharisees, Jesus never spoke one cross word to the unconverted masses. He was very tender and kind in all His dealings with men, even the most wicked among them. He sat at meat with the rich and ungodly and never upbraided them for their sins, shortcomings, and moral failures. His approach to them was very gentle, delicate, and considerate. Surely then, we are safer in His hands than anywhere else! The things He has in store for every one of us are far greater than we could plan for ourselves! The Holy Spirit has taught me three things relative to the life of sonship. These three principles are expressed in Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who is God’s rainbow of promise around the throne.First, Jesus never condoned sin. How do I know this? Because, when the woman caught in adultery was left before Him, He spoke prophetically and redemptively into her life, saying, “Go, and sin no more.” I believe she did just that! His words were spirit and life unto her, transforming and lifting her life. Jesus did not come to condone our fallen state and sinful conduct, He came to save us from it! He didn’t come to say, “I’m O.K., you’re O.K., everybody’s O.K.” Everybody is not O.K.! Jesus was often forgiving sin and then admonishing, “Go and sin no more lest a worse thing come upon you.” He perfectly understood the law of sowing and reaping, the law of sin and death, with it’s inherent process of judgment. Hear me now! Secondly, Jesus never condemned the sinner! Never! His testimony was that “God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.” Though Jesus never condoned sin, He never condemned the sinner! He didn’t go around reminding men what terrible sinners they were. Most men already knew that! He didn’t counsel them about all the bad they had done or were doing. He knew what was in man, He understood that people really, within their own human strength and nature, could not help what they were! They needed compassion, love, mercy, and deliverance — not condemnation! Never, in all His years of ministry, did He ever condemn even one sinner! Jesus could do something that very few of our modern fundamentalist and evangelical preachers can do — He could preach salvation without first informing his audience about how fallen, rotten, wicked, and despicable they were, and how hot was the hell that awaited them if they didn’t repent! He didn’t say, “Repent, or you’re going to eternal hell!” On the contrary, He said, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand!” “Repent — because I have something infinitely better prepared for you!” Isn’t it wonderful!
I really admire what you had to say, Ben12. I have a question. Is nudity in art equal to porn? Is it wrong? Yesterday I was at an art site and looking up pictures of dragons. I looked up pictures of dragon sacrifices of girls/young women who were sacrificed to dragons, and a lot of the pictures/drawings/paintings/art showed young women tied up, in bondage usually nude or scantilly clad tied up before a scary looking dragon. Not all the dragons were scary some of them actually looked friendly like they were not going to eat the girl. I've drawn a couple of dragons acrifice pics myself and started to write a story about a peasant girl who is sacrificed to a dragon but he is a nice dragon and he doesn't eat her they fall in love. I changed my mind about the story because an inter-species relationship is not exactly christian.
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