I never quite understood what promoting was, I had this in my "How I became a Christian" box, and it was said to be promoting, and I don't see how... maybe while people are asking about what constitutes promoting, they can tell me why this was considered promoting:
How I became a Christian/Pantheist:
I was raised as a member of the Worldwide Church of God, where I came to believe in Christ, God, and the Bible. (inform) I never 'accepted' Christ, because He came into my life without my bidding. Eventually, I left the Church I grew up in, and started to move away from the beliefs I once held. Though, as I did this, it seemed I grew closer to Christ, for He became not some historical person who died for my sins, but a living being, some One whom I loved.(inform) This came to be because I slowly accepted beliefs from other religions, which pointed toward pantheism-the belief that everything is God.(inform-accepting beliefs from other religions did point me toward pantheism) I could see that everything is energy, all interconnected, all part of One, and what could that One be but God? Who could that One be but Christ?(inform: how I see things) So, now I worship Christ as a personal manifestation of the One, filled with Love, who died to bring us all together once again.(yet again, inform, how I worship and see Christ)
So, if no one minds, please point out the promotion in this paragraph.
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Fellowshipping would be fellowshipping, not promoting. It would include threads that were meant for us to get to know each other that don't necessarily belong in a debate forum. Like the "What's your favorite video?" thread, or the "What kind of music do you like?" thread, etc.
Is fellowship restricted to trivial things not related to faith?
It seems like a lot of Christians use the word that way.
I don't see a discussion thread for this announcement, so I'll assume we may discuss here.
Originally Posted by mnphysicist
[1] Non-Nicene Theology is renamed Unorthodox Theology and moved to the Theology forum category;
[2] A fellowship forum is created for unorthodox members as a sub-forum of Unorthodox Theology;
[3] All existing unorthodox theology discussion threads are moved to the Unorthodox Theology forum; all existing threads in the unorthodox Congregations are moved to the fellowship sub-forum.
That looks like an improvement, but I am not clear on what is going to happen. I can't find the pertinent wiki nor its snapshot, so I shall use my own definitions for levels of categorization : message board --> section --> category --> (subcategory -->) subforum For example christianforums --> Non-Nicene Faiths --> Non-Nicene Theology --> Jehovah's Witnesses
As far as I understand
All the threads in the Non-Nicene Theology category will be moved to the Non-Nicene Theology subforum
All threads of the Non-Nicene Congregation category are moved to the Unitarian/Non-Trinitarian subforum.
An Unorthodox Theology subcategory is created.
Non-Nicene Theology subforum is renamend Unorthodox Theology and is moved to the Unorthodox Theology subcategory.
Unitarian/Non-Trinitarian subforum is renamed Fellowship and is moved moved to the Unorthodox Theology subcategory.
The Unorthodox Theology subcategory is moved to the Theology category.
Thus we would have christianforums --> Christian Faith --> Theology --> Unorthodox Theology --> {Unorthodox Theology; Fellowship} Is that correct ?
Originally Posted by mnphysicist
Over the next month, staff will go in and clean up any promotion type posts or threads. Posts or threads older than 30 days will be left alone to scroll off the page, unless promotion is especially egregious. No violations will be issued for posts made prior to Jan. 31.
Such measures are evidence of the inferiority of the Nicene worldview and I will demote it as such. Niceneans are weak in faith.
Originally Posted by Apex
For me this changes nothing. We still are not allowed to "promote non-nicene" beliefs. All this amendment does is attempts to appease by creating a "congregational forum" for "unorthodox" members. It is stating that if you do not believe as CF does, you are not "Christian" enough.
If I understand correctly, you forums would be moved to The Christian Faith section. So you would be recognised as Christian.
Originally Posted by Crazy Liz
Maybe we could start with a little quiz:
Starting a wiki on it is no longer possible, but perhaps a dedicated thread on the definition of promotion would be useful.
Starlight : That's a good change, but they should be allowed to promote their views at least in the unorthodox theology forum and the fellowship forum in it. A New Dawn : Why? Because otherwise they would be negatively discriminated. The slogan 'All people are equal.' is only commendable if you don't add to it 'But some people are more equual than others.'
Originally Posted by A New Dawn
I disagree. Discussing and promoting are two different things. You can have a good discussion without promoting. When I was unorthodox I had no problem discussing things and never got called down for promoting things.
Niceneans should then be prohibited from promoting the Nicene worldview in the Unorthodox Theology subcategory.
Originally Posted by Starlight
But what if the other side in a discussion (the one which is allowed to promote their beliefs) starts promoting their views instead of simply discussing it?
The unorthodox Christian could call the orthodox one on it, for example with “You are preaching” or “The forum rules do not permit me to tell the truth about this issue.”
Originally Posted by RendaLane
I know you're not asking me. But, imo, because not every Christian holds to this site's ideas of what that means, for one thing. And supressing other peoples beliefs doesn't lead to conversion, it leads people to hate Christianity.
Be it hate or ridicule, Christianity has dropped on my respect scale since LeeD is in charge.
Originally Posted by A New Dawn
The Bible says a lot of other things that are, frankly, ignored by people who feel that one theology is as good as another, even if it isn't Biblical. God never said "I'm OK, You're OK". He did say "Go thy way and sin no more", though.
'I am OK. You are OK.' is one of the basic principles of communication. When will God learn ?
Originally Posted by Rep Daddy
The goal is not FAIR. When LeeD says he does not want Non-Nicene views promoted he is making it clear that his goal is not fairness, He has a POV that he wants promoted and one he does not. Fairness isn't the yardstick, the Nicene Creed is.
Will you stop slandering LeeD please ? That's my prerogative.
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I never quite understood what promoting was, I had this in my "How I became a Christian" box, and it was said to be promoting, and I don't see how... maybe while people are asking about what constitutes promoting, they can tell me why this was considered promoting:
How I became a Christian/Pantheist:
I was raised as a member of the Worldwide Church of God, where I came to believe in Christ, God, and the Bible. (inform) I never 'accepted' Christ, because He came into my life without my bidding. Eventually, I left the Church I grew up in, and started to move away from the beliefs I once held. Though, as I did this, it seemed I grew closer to Christ, for He became not some historical person who died for my sins, but a living being, some One whom I loved.(inform) This came to be because I slowly accepted beliefs from other religions, which pointed toward pantheism-the belief that everything is God.(inform-accepting beliefs from other religions did point me toward pantheism) I could see that everything is energy, all interconnected, all part of One, and what could that One be but God? Who could that One be but Christ?(inform: how I see things) So, now I worship Christ as a personal manifestation of the One, filled with Love, who died to bring us all together once again.(yet again, inform, how I worship and see Christ)
So, if no one minds, please point out the promotion in this paragraph.
the only part that imo that would be considered promoting would be the conclusions you personally reached, as if they were now truth for everyone
the only part that imo that would be considered promoting would be the conclusions you personally reached, as if they were now truth for everyone
Subjectivity can be abused very easily. My advice train staff with caution to withhold their mod powers unless there is a CLEAR violation of a rule. What is an answer to one could be heresy to another.
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It is my opinion that if the question is allowed then the answer should be allowed. If the answer would garner a warning then the question shouldn't be allowed.
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