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I we can see creative miracles, does that prove that there is a creator?

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I we can see creative miracles, does that prove that there is a creator?

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Gidday speakout,

You won't forget to deal with dating techniques and why they are "unreasonable" over at your blog, will you.

Over there, I have also suggested that you deal with those three examples (re dating) from Hovind, that I showed you, because by any measure, they are unreasonable.




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Old 28th January 2008, 03:36 PM
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I we can see creative miracles, does that prove that there is a creator?

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If you actually look at the documents shown in the video, what speakout calls a "heart cavity" is referred to as "bidirectional PDA".

What is PDA?

In PDA, there is an abnormal circulation of blood between two of the major arteries near the heart. Before birth, the two major arteries—the aorta and the pulmonary artery—are normally connected by a blood vessel called the ductus arteriosus, which is an essential part of the fetal circulation. After birth, the vessel is supposed to close within a few days as part of the normal changes occurring in the baby's circulation. In some babies, however, the ductus arteriosus remains open (patent).
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So, what speakout would like to claim is a case of a hole in an infant's heart healing spontaneously is actually a case of a normally existing blood vessel (which is supposed to close spontaneously) closing spontaneously.

I should also point out:

Small PDAs often close without treatment.
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Nice. Someone rep flatworm please.
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Nice. Someone rep flatworm please.
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I know people with holes in their heart who never get healed.
I know people who catch the flu who die from it. Your point?
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