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5th November 2003, 03:28 AM
| | Forgiven 23  | | Join Date: 9th August 2002 Location: In a house
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Reps: 7,945 (power: 19) | | | Refugees? I was wondering what people here thought about how the gov. is handling all the refugees and all?
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5th November 2003, 07:30 AM
|  | Senior Veteran 35  | | Join Date: 30th October 2003 Location: Australia
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Reps: 1,993 (power: 13) | | | This is a really tricky one. I think there needs to be more mercy, especially with the way the children are treated. On the other hand, I do not think people who have not gone through the right channels to get into Australia, should be let in. I would prefer they were sent home, but it is our Tax money that pays for that!
All I can say is that I am glad I am not in government, or in the position to make these decisions. | 
5th November 2003, 08:31 AM
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| | Join Date: 28th October 2003 Location: Perth WA
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Reps: 497 (power: 0) | | | I dont quite know where i stand on this. I do feel we could show them a bit more compassion in how we treat them, but we cant just let anyone in who isnt going by the legal means. having said that some of them must have suffered some pretty horific things to make it worth selling all they own to sail in a rickety stinky boat to a country most of them have only heard about. Its a real tough one IMO
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6th November 2003, 01:33 AM
|  | Hold me in your arms, never let me run away 28  | | Join Date: 8th October 2003 Location: Bathurst
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Reps: 446 (power: 0) | | | well theres this little thing called the Australian National Anthem that says: "For those who come across the sea, we've boundless plains to share". Just put yourselves in their shoes and ask yourself how you would feel if you were forced to flee from your homeland, from all your family and friends, to a new country because of war/persecution, and you put everything you have into getting your family there, to be turned away and locked up like a criminal when you get there.
personally i think the way the government is handling it is a disgrace and it makes me ashamed to be an Australian.
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6th November 2003, 03:03 AM
|  | Got Stairs? 26 
| | Join Date: 25th July 2003 Location: A Cardboard Box
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Reps: 104 (power: 0) | | | The government has it head stuck up its ****. Not to mention that we are violating human right agreements.... no-one deserves to be held like the refugees are
i am ashamed to be an australia citizen. | 
6th November 2003, 05:05 AM
|  | Servant for God 26 
| | Join Date: 28th October 2003 Location: Perth WA
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Reps: 497 (power: 0) | | | i definately disagree with how we ARE handling them, its almost better for them to be where they come from being killed than being locked up (although some of what they get in these detention centres is a lot better than what some of us Australians get). We definately need to find a better way to handle them, but i dont think we can just open up Australia and let anyone in.
How would you feel if you had applied through all the right channels, had family in Aus, had sold everything you owned so as to afford a ticket to Aus and could not stay where you were and then be told you cant come, then hear a whole bunch of illegal immigrants had landed, and that some of these got in. Id be pretty annoyed. Having said that many of the refugees who do come are the people who had been knocked back so tried coming illegally.
There has to be a better way, we can fit more people in Aus but we definately cant just let every person who lands on our land to stay, if we did that we'd have thousands arriving in a few weeks and our economy/social security System couldnt handle it.
Shouldnt treat them how we are now though.
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6th November 2003, 11:45 AM
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Reps: 135 (power: 0) | | | Our handling of asylum seekers is nothing short of criminal.
It's a human rights abuse. Simple. | 
7th November 2003, 12:42 AM
|  | Senior Member 27  | | Join Date: 30th October 2003 Location: Australia
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Reps: 51 (power: 0) | | | In my current state of mind..they shouldnt be allowed in..for one reason there muslim..second they come here illegally. Something i dont agree with what the GOV is doin is keepin them here when they know they aint gonna stay..they should send them back straight away instead of keepin them locked up. | 
7th November 2003, 03:34 AM
| | Forgiven 23  | | Join Date: 9th August 2002 Location: In a house
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Reps: 7,945 (power: 19) | | | I don't entirely agree with the way the gov. is handling them, but i think they're doing better than what all the media shows the public wants. I agree with Middo and the others, we can't just let them in. I feel the gov. has the right idea, or principle, but can maybe improve on the accomodation and programs run for them. maybe getting them a little more involved with the community, while not giving them a too let's-get-used-to-this time.
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17th November 2003, 04:20 AM
|  | Hold me in your arms, never let me run away 28  | | Join Date: 8th October 2003 Location: Bathurst
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Reps: 446 (power: 0) | | i cant remember who but i agree with the lady who said on the news that the australian people are getting sick of the hard line attitude and fear mongering by the government
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