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1. AV makes a "challenge" which contains a couple fundamental flaws.
2. People respond by pointing out the flaws.
3. AV gets to claim "No one ever answers my challenges!"
Now AV will "stockpile" this flawed illogic and dredge it up every time he tries to push his "embedded history" stuff.
Yay. Go Go Go.
Get ready for it. Soon AV's posts will just be hot-linked lists of the Apple Challenge the Ants in the Swimming Pool and now the Rock-Paper-No Scissors challenge.
The two statements are reconcilable. It is simple. God created things with age embedded in them. God created Adam an adult and intelligence and the ability to speak a language. God created Adam with a belly button, I am sure, and there is no reason to think He did not.
The rock is formed then accelerated to ver y near the speed of light for 2.25 billion years. We then slingshot it arouund a black hole to bring it back to earth over the course of another 2.25 billion years.
Of course, this would provide a rock that appeared to be 6100 years old but that was created 4.5 billion years ago which I thing is the opposite of what you are trying to accomplish.
"We believe that among God’s good gifts are human minds capable of critical thought and that the failure to fully employ this gift is a rejection of the will of our Creator. To argue that God’s loving plan of salvation for humanity precludes the full employment of the God-given faculty of reason is to attempt to limit God, an act of hubris. "
We believe that among God's good gifts is the ministry of reconciliation and that the failure to fully employ this gift is a rejection of the will of our Creator. To argue that God's loving revelation of His creation of the universe excludes the literal interpretation of the God-given Documentation on the subject is to attempt to limit God's revelation, an act of foolishness.
AV1611 King James Bible/2 Corinthians 5:18/ministry of reconciliation
How would you reconcile these two statements w/o being disrespectful to either one:
This rock has been in existence for 6100 years.
This rock is 4.57 billion years old.
I can't. Can you?
"Science is a way of trying not to fool yourself. The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool." Richard Feynman
The two statements are reconcilable. It is simple. God created things with age embedded in them. God created Adam an adult and intelligence and the ability to speak a language. God created Adam with a belly button, I am sure, and there is no reason to think He did not.
Ewww, Lakercom, I started to give you reps, until I read that last sentence.
Here's a question for all you guys that think it can't logically be done:
Can God do it, employing supralogical means?
There is no such thing as "supralogical" in the real world.
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