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Would every evolutionist here agree that the number of generations we are made of should greatly outnumber the total number of mutations that we are made of?
Would every evolutionist here agree that the number of generations we are made of should greatly outnumber the total number of mutations that we are made of?
As we're not "made of" mutations, your question makes no sense.
If you're trying to say what I think you are, then the answer would be no, not at all, quite the opposite, in fact.
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I would say that the number of total animals (organisms) between us and our common ancestor to say monkeys, should greatly outnumber the number of mutations that have happend to us since that common ancestor.
I would say that the number of total animals (organisms) between us and our common ancestor to say monkeys, should greatly outnumber the number of mutations that have happend to us since that common ancestor.
But he's talking generations, not organisms.
And considering all the different mutations it would take to split that common ancestor into the different animals, as well as the neutral mutations we contain, then that's a whole lot of mutations...
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Do I really look like a man with a plan, Harvey? I don't have a plan. The mob has plans, the cops have plans. You know what I am, Harvey? I'm a dog chasing cars. I wouldn't know what to do with one if I caught it!
I just do things. I'm a wrench in the gears. I hate plans. Yours, theirs, everyones. Maroni has plans. Gordon has plans. Schemers trying to control their worlds. I'm not a schemer. I show schemers how pathetic their attempts to control things really are. So when I say that what happened to you and your girlfriend was nothing personal, you know I'm telling the truth.
It's the schemer who put you where you are. You were a schemer. You had plans. Look where it got you. I just did what I did best -- I took your plan and I turned it on itself.
Look what I've done to this city with a few drums of gas and a couple of bullets. Nobody panics when the expected people get killed. Nobody panics when things go according to plan, even if the plan is horrifying. If I tell the press that tomorrow a gang-banger will get shot, or a truckload of soldiers will be blown up, nobody panics. Because it's all part of the plan. But when I say that one little old mayor will die, everybody loses their minds!
Introduce a little anarchy, you upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos. I'm an agent of chaos.
And you know the thing about chaos, Harvey? It's fair.
It all depends upon the circumstances. Also if you're talking about a population there can be large variations so telling what is normal and what is a mutation is difficult in certain situations.
I would think that mutations would outnumber generations since accidents happen when DNA replicates itself. Then of course you have the inherent adaptability (ordered chaos if you want) of sexual reproduction and the mixing of DNA.
Also it depends on how big of a mutation you're talking about. If you're talking about large scale changes (arms to wings etc) then yeah, I guess generations would outnumber that cumulitive mutation. However that seemingly single mutation is the result of many mutations accumulated over time, so it could also be argued that mutations still out number generations.
All depends on the parameters you set and if you look at mutations thru the phenotype or genotype.
And considering all the different mutations it would take to split that common ancestor into the different animals, as well as the neutral mutations we contain, then that's a whole lot of mutations...
Would every evolutionist here agree that the number of generations we are made of should greatly outnumber the total number of mutations that we are made of?
Nope. You have many new mutations in your body. They probably aren't harmful, or even beneficial, just.. neutral. Aren't bad or good.
I'm sorry. It was almost 1:00 when I posted that, so I made it a "one-liner".
I was just thinking, if every cell in my body is actually the product of evolution, the number of animals I descended from would have to outnumber the number of cells in my body. But, I knew this could have a better explanation, and Milk Man posted it.
In populations, there is mixing. And sometimes, mutations can be more than something so small.
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