Oh, there are Catholic pages on the list as well. If you think a link should be blocked, report one instance of it with a note requesting review, and we'll take a look at it.
I think you will find, however, that the "catholic" pages that have any credibility whatsoever are perfectly legitimate references for theological debate support. Catholic Answers, Scripture Catholic, Catholic Educators Resource, etc... while strong in their defense of the Catholic viewpoint, can hardly be considered polemic.
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I think you will find, however, that the "catholic" pages that have any credibility whatsoever are perfectly legitimate references for theological debate support. Catholic Answers, Scripture Catholic, Catholic Educators Resource, etc... while strong in their defense of the Catholic viewpoint, can hardly be considered polemic.
That depends...do they have shoddy HTML?
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The ones that I've mentioned? Nope. There are other sites out there that I wouldn't bet money on though. There are some Catholics out there who don't believe that the Pope is Catholic enough. There ain't no pleasing everyone.
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Oh, there are Catholic pages on the list as well. If you think a link should be blocked, report one instance of it with a note requesting review, and we'll take a look at it.
okay thanks...
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CARM has been on the list just about forever...it was already there when I started modding. It's conditional to the page though, which it's kind of difficult to determine. Stuff is added to the list by the consensus of the mods of a forum if it crops up.
The entire site will not be banned. We'll look into conditional banning of certain pages - the same criteria used for CARM.
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The entire site will not be banned. We'll look into conditional banning of certain pages - the same criteria used for CARM.
One of the first things that should be looked at is the tone of the various tracts that are being "considered" for this. Catholic Answers goes out of its way NOT to engage in the type of polemical rhetoric that CARM does, and never singles out a particular faith as being apostate, as CARM does to the Catholic faith. Here is an except from the very document he is referencing.
What Is Heresy?
Heresy is an emotionally loaded term that is often misused. It is not the same thing as incredulity, schism, apostasy, or other sins against faith. The Catechism of the Catholic Church states, "Incredulity is the neglect of revealed truth or the willful refusal to assent to it. Heresy is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and Catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same; apostasy is the total repudiation of the Christian faith; schism is the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him" (CCC 2089).
Now, if you "ban" the Catholic Answers stuff, you are going to have to ban the referenced information from the Catechism of the Catholic Church, and then you will have to ban the referenced Patristics, because certain of the early church writers, such as Tertullian, Irenaeus of Lyon, Ignatius of Antioch, Polycarp of Smyrna, etc...railed constantly against false Christology (the beginning of the use of the word heresy). So, then, if you ban the Catholic Catechism, the Catholics will insist the Augsburg Confession be banned, the Westminster Confession, the Articles of Lambeth, etc...
The only people that will be able to post here and support their arguements are non-denominational Christians.
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One of the first things that should be looked at is the tone of the various tracts that are being "considered" for this. Catholic Answers goes out of its way NOT to engage in the type of polemical rhetoric that CARM does, and never singles out a particular faith as being apostate, as CARM does to the Catholic faith. Here is an except from the very document he is referencing.
What Is Heresy?
Heresy is an emotionally loaded term that is often misused. It is not the same thing as incredulity, schism, apostasy, or other sins against faith. The Catechism of the Catholic Church states, "Incredulity is the neglect of revealed truth or the willful refusal to assent to it. Heresy is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and Catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same; apostasy is the total repudiation of the Christian faith; schism is the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him" (CCC 2089).
Now, if you "ban" the Catholic Answers stuff, you are going to have to ban the referenced information from the Catechism of the Catholic Church, and then you will have to ban the referenced Patristics, because certain of the early church writers, such as Tertullian, Irenaeus of Lyon, Ignatius of Antioch, Polycarp of Smyrna, etc...railed constantly against false Christology (the beginning of the use of the word heresy). So, then, if you ban the Catholic Catechism, the Catholics will insist the Augsburg Confession be banned, the Westminster Confession, the Articles of Lambeth, etc...
The only people that will be able to post here and support their arguements are non-denominational Christians.
I have to agree with this one...
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I wasn't always this way I used to be the one with the halo
But that disappeared when I had my first taste
And fell from grace It left me In this place
Well I'm starting to think Maybe you like it
I tear you down I make you bleed Eternally
Can't help myself From hurting you
And it's hurting me I don't have wings
So flying with me won't be easy Cause I'm not an angel
What Is Heresy?
Heresy is an emotionally loaded term that is often misused. It is not the same thing as incredulity, schism, apostasy, or other sins against faith. The Catechism of the Catholic Church states, "Incredulity is the neglect of revealed truth or the willful refusal to assent to it. Heresy is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and Catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same; apostasy is the total repudiation of the Christian faith; schism is the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him" (CCC 2089).
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Scott,
Am I or am I NOT a schismatic heretic according to your catholicanswer link and the catechism? along with anyone else who has left Rome to what they see as the true church? These things are not things I would wish for an unknowledgeable new believer to read, that they are a heretic, yet we are forced to read this everytime you quote these sources, if you can post that why can't I post what the Augsburg confessions say about the anti-christ or what my church thinks of infant baptism (i've been infracted for this)?
Proverbs 11:1 A false balance is abomination to the LORD: but a just weight is his delight.
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