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Old 2nd January 2008, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by FishFace View Post
Hey, one side are begging us to provide rational response to trolls, the other are trying to get us to ignore them! What are we to do!

Accept that you can't please everybody and decide for yourself what the most prudent course of action is to take.
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Originally Posted by RichardT View Post
That looks interesting, Richard, but I’m not sure what I’d think of debating this in a Yahoo group format. I’ve always thought Yahoo groups work best for discussions that revolve around the ability to upload files there, such as art communities. For debates, I really prefer being able to view multiple posts on a single page the way is possible at a forum, and how easy it is to quote other people’s posts at one.

Does anyone here have any other suggestions?
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That looks interesting, Richard, but I’m not sure what I’d think of debating this in a Yahoo group format. I’ve always thought Yahoo groups work best for discussions that revolve around the ability to upload files there, such as art communities. For debates, I really prefer being able to view multiple posts on a single page the way is possible at a forum, and how easy it is to quote other people’s posts at one.



You can. You don't even need a yahoo account to join. You can join from whatever account you want and you could decide to simply post from the website here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/

Also, when you reply a message, it becomes a thread. For example, check this out.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/15295

Go to the bottom of the page and you'll see who replied to the thread. You can also reply to the OP from there.
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Originally Posted by RichardT View Post
You can. You don't even need a yahoo account to join. You can join from whatever account you want and you could decide to simply post from the website here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/

Also, when you reply a message, it becomes a thread. For example, check this out.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/15295

Go to the bottom of the page and you'll see who replied to the "thread".
I know how Yahoo groups work; I’m the administrator of one. What I’m saying is that even though you can view a list of all the posts in a thread or from a certain period of time, in order to read any of them in its entirety, you still have to view them one at a time.
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Originally Posted by Naraoia View Post
Perhaps if less people left for that reason there would be more intelligent conversation
That seems to be a logical assumption, but unfortunately, those who really want to converse in an intelligent manner are subjected repeatedly to insults and the like making it a very less than enjoyable pass time.

While I think it is important for Christians to share their views and discuss alternate views, it becomes more trouble than it is worth when the atheist or evolutionist viewpoint is coupled with an insincere and mocking voice. It almost seems like a herd mentality in some cases. I've known Christians on here that were always kind and would not have been rude or mocking to others become so when they walked away from religion. They seemed to join the herd, so to speak.

I don't want to put everyone with differing viewpoints in the same light though, I know many on here that are always here for debate for debates sake rather than to ridicule and harass. That is why I generally come back after a break, I do enjoy a good debate. It just takes a little break from the less than stimulating senselessness of those who would rather make rude and insulting statements than intelligent dialog.
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Originally Posted by Naraoia View Post
Why, ignore them rationally
I'd prefer to respond ignorantly
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I'd prefer to respond ignorantly
Since I've never seen you doing so I very much doubt this was a true statement
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I haven't been here very long, so I suppose my opinion could just be ignored.. but I'll throw it out there anyway.

I agree, I have seen a few posts that skip directly over any form of evidence-based argument and go directly to ridicule.. but thats from BOTH sides.

Both sides are quite willing to take personal jabs at eachother, to say that "fallacious pro-evolution arguments" are scaring away Creationists that WANT to learn is like saying the "Lalalalalalal I don't have to listen 'cause God says so Lalalalalal" is scaring away the evolutionists/atheists that want to learn.

I used to frequent EVCForum a few years ago, and while I still pop in every now and again, I left because several of the Creationists there were downright rude.
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Do you have any suggestions about a creationism/evolution forum I could join that’s closer to the way this board was in 2004 and 2005?

I’ve been looking at http://www.evcforum.net/ a little, but I don’t know if there’s anything better than that out there.
Except for that one, not really. That's probably one of the better ones around. I've read, but not participated in, the Crevo thread at Theology web and participated for a time at forums.christianity.com (IIRC).

Originally Posted by FishFace View Post
Hey, one side are begging us to provide rational response to trolls, the other are trying to get us to ignore them! What are we to do!
I'm sure the Solomonic decision will become obvious to wise and rational people in short order.

The rest will continue arguing with AVVET and Supersport or responding to Consol's threads...
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4: I’ve seen supporters of evolution claim here dozens of times that the theory of evolution has never been used as support for racism. This claim is simply false, as I’ve already pointed out in this thread. Blayz’s first reply shows the typical response that supporters of evolution here have to this idea.
To be fair, though many racists have claimed to have used the theory of evolution to justify their crackpot eugenic schemes, social darwinism is completely without scientific merit; indeed, on the genetic level there are no such things as 'races', only various variences that differ more within ethnic populations than between them.
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