what fascinates me about our sun

At over 1.4 million kilometers (869,919 miles) wide, the Sun contains 99.86 percent of the mass of the entire solar system

You said "in the entire universe". :rolleyes:

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Reread that. The sun contains 99.86% of the mass in our solar system.

As for putting out "exactly the right amount of energy", our sun is a yellow star, which IIRC is the most common class of star in the visible universe. There are billions upon billions of stars putting out the same amount of energy.

(sorry for the cross-post. We even bolded the same part)

Maybe the solar system is the Universe and the other stars are just the firmament.

While, as a Christian, I do think that God designed all we see and created Earth as a place for us, the point you make (regardless of the "universe"/"solar system" mixup) won't hold water.

The naturalistic answer would simply be the reverse: we developed here *because* the conditions were right, not the conditions were right *so that* we could develop here.

D'OH!!!!!! Ok.. I missed the solar system thing.. But still. I would still argue my point irregardless of the mixup.

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Um, your point seemed to be that our sun is somehow unique. The facts say otherwise. So what is your point?

Yeah basically. It may seem amazing to us that our planet is at the "perfect distance" however, that just means this solar system got lucky.

I guess whenever someone gets the "perfect set of numbers" in the lottery, it wasn't chance, but god designed.

Yes, there is a very small chance that this solar system would have complex life, however, the chance that some solar system, somewhere, at sometime would evolve complex life, is much larger.

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I just find it awe inspiring, and highly unlikely to have developed by chance. You wouldn't bet your house on it, would you? I know I wouldn't.

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You've made an assumption you're not even aware of. You've assumed that humanity was the ultimate goal. That we MUST come to exist. But we didn't have to exist.

We exist BECAUSE the sun is the right distance away (and myriad other factors) it's not that distance away so that we CAN exist.

Sure I would bet my house on it, After the fact.

Remember, no matter how small the chance of it happening, this is after the fact. If it didn't happen anywhere in the universe, we would not be sitting here talking about it. Thus as far as our perception is concerned, the chances of it happening in the universe at least once = 1.


The problem is that we dont actually know the probability of it happening so its very hard to say that its a rare event at all, because we dont know.
Especially when you add time into the mix. Because im sure there are plenty of stars that could have supported life, that are out of that stage now. So who knows, maybe they did support life along long time ago.

Besides the fact, look at the lottery, there are very small chances of someone winning the lottery, yet often 2 or more people win, thus even small chances can happen often.

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