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Old 29th October 2003, 08:53 PM
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A series of quotes from Hovind (which can be found at the site linked on the bottom):

I may not always be right, but if I am saying it in my seminar then I don't know it to be false.

A simple trick you can do. Suppose someone is getting married and going off on their honeymoon, you can pull out the coil wire [of the car engine]. Stick a door bell wire under there, pull it back, bring the door bell wire through the fire wall, and weave it through the fabric of the seat. They get in there all excited going on their honeymoon, you know, hit the key. Bam!! Ohh, ahh. Ha, ha, ha. I can give you lots more ideas but we’ll stop there.

Oklahoma City bombing was done on purpose. Did you know the Federal Government blew up their own building to blame it on the militias and to get rid of some people that weren't cooperating with the system?

What do HIV, West Nile Fever, Gulf war syndrome, chronic fatigue syndrome, multiple sclerosis, Wegener's disease, Parkinson's disease, Crohn's colitis, Type I diabetes, and collagen-vascular diseases such as rheumatoid arthritis and Alzheimer's have in common? These plagues were all developed as a joint effort by the money masters and governments of the world under the guise of biowarfare research. The bad guys who would like to have a one world government have learned a simple technique - you create a crisis and then the people will call for you to come solve the crisis. That’s why the Oklahoma City Bombing took place. They wanted to get the anti-terrorist bill passed through Congress. […..] Whenever there is a crisis like the Twin Towers getting blown up, you had just better look behind the scenes to see what is really happening. Why is this going on? There’s a reason for it, okay, it’s all part of a plan. […..] [American] Civil War was intentionally done, World War Two, the Great Depression, all these things are planned ahead of time and they are orchestrated to […..] cause a particular response amongst the people.

My take on what happened with the moon landing was [......] they suspect [sic] that on impact that the cameras would be damaged because back in 1969 cameras weren't, you know, like they are today, as good. So they had a studio set up at CBS to mimic the moon landing. And sure enough the cameras broke and so they flipped, you know, the CBS studio on. And what you saw of the footage of the '69 moon landing was actually at CBS studio.

Stanley Deyo, a Christian, is a genius who wrote the book [The Cosmic Conspiracy]. Way over my head. Deyo says that there are two kinds of UFOs. First, there are US government owned and operated UFOs. That really got my attention. The US government has UFOs? He said that the second kind is the satanically owned and operated UFOs. He says that Satan has always used that mode of transportation to get around because the devil [sic] can only be at one place at one time, whereas God is all places at all times. That may be far fetched, so please do not accuse me of saying this is true. I do not know if it is true, but it is an interesting theory.

The globalist, the Council of the Committee of Three Hundred, has as one of their goals to reduce the world population from six billion to one-half billion people. There are too many people here that cannot be controlled; so get rid of them. That's why AIDS was purposefully developed in a Maryland laboratory to wipe out population.

On August 6, a grand jury hears former White House intern Monica Lewinsky, reported to testify that she and President carried on a sexual affair. On August 7 two U.S. Embassies in Africa are bombed, steering the news headlines away from the Lewinsky affair. The attacks are later blamed on Osama bin Laden. Why would bin Laden time these attacks to divert attention away from the Clinton affair? This has never been explained.
[All] Dinosaurs have four perfectly good [quadruped] legs and birds have two legs and two wings. So if he’s going to turn into a bird his front legs are going to have to turn into wings [….] Somewhere along the line they’re going to be half leg and half wing. Which means now he can’t walk anymore and can’t fly yet.

Hey, did you know the word 'universe' comes from two Latin words? Uni means single and verse means a spoken sentence.

Those who have been in the [Noah’s] Ark, and many have been in the last couple hundred years ….

Einstein's theory was that the speed of light is a constant. Time is the variable. Maybe he was wrong. Maybe time is the constant and light is the variable.

I believe the Great Pyramid was built to be the Bible in stone. The Egyptians did not build it.

Therefore, there may not be any other stars in the solar system that have planets around them. Obviously, several different colors of people exist on the earth that have distinctive characteristics, but they are the same race. [.....] One theory says that Adam and Eve were medium-brown, possibly because they were made from the earth.

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You gotta wonder how anyone could believe this guy.

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Originally Posted by Vance
Einstein's theory was that the speed of light is a constant. Time is the variable. Maybe he was wrong. Maybe time is the constant and light is the variable.
Except for this one I think the rest are Conspiracies(not true or false)

I heard that scientists have stopped and sped up the speed of light.

How exactly can someone stop or speed up time?
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They have changed the speed of light, but not c. c is the speed of light in a vacum and is a constant.

The rate at which you move through time (for lack of a better way to put it) is not constant and can change, although for us it is a very small change. Astronauts experience time differently than we do here on earth, its a very small difference and it needed an atomic clock to be able to tell, however, the atomic clock on earth and the one they took up into space showed slightly different times when compared. Evidence for one of Einstiens most famous theories.

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Except for this one I think the rest are Conspiracies(not true or false)

I heard that scientists have stopped and sped up the speed of light.

How exactly can someone stop or speed up time?
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Old 30th October 2003, 02:28 AM
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I think Hovind said something about the Atomic Clock being a "rubber ruler" I'll see what I can find..............
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Old 30th October 2003, 02:31 AM
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Hovind: Last June of the year 2000 at Princeton University they speeded light up to 300 times the speed of light. In February of this year at Harvard University Dr. Howe from Denmark slowed light down to one mile per hour. I said, I think there are three things...

Ross: Nothing physical....hold it....

Hovind: It’s my turn now. Just a minute. There are three things to consider with starlight. We do not know that the speed of light has always remained constant all through history. The way we measure light now is with an atomic clock, using the wavelength of a cesium 133 atom. So if light is slowing down, your clock is slowing down at the same rate, you have a rubber ruler. You’re never going to notice it. Since 1962....

Ross: We don’t use that method.

Hovind: Let me finish. Then, secondly, I mentioned earlier, you can’t tell the distance to these stars—14 billion light years away. They might be...they probably are. But we can’t measure that and it’s silly for us—little humans on earth—to say, "We know the distance to that star: 14 billion light years away." It can’t be done!
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LoL thats very funny.

Im curious if Hovind even realizes a "light year" is a measure of distance.
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Old 30th October 2003, 02:44 AM
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I should have finished the quote.

Ross: It’s high school trig.

Hovind: The God that I worship made a full-grown man, a full-grown garden. He didn’t make two babies and put them in the Garden and say, "Here’s a package of seeds. Go plant them quick!" You know? There was fruit already on the trees. That’s not deceptive. It’s necessary. It doesn’t work otherwise. And the reason God made the stars was for signs and for seasons so Adam could see them. God made the stars and the light all simultaneously or the light traveled faster. My God is not limited by stuff like that. And I get real concerned that maybe we’re talking about different gods here when we talk about....
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Ross: Okay. Astronomers view the credibility of the "Young Earth" as being much weaker than that for a flat earth.

Hovind: Wait, wait, wait. Just this blanket statement: "Astronomers say..." as if he’s speaking for all astronomers. I just spent the last three hours with Danny Faulkner who is an astronomer—who would love to debate you, by the way.

Ross: Sure.

Hovind: Would you be willing to do that?

Ross: Definitely.
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Is this Hugh Ross that is referenced?

I listened to a few tapes by Hovind a while ago. I thought they were interesting for elementary school kids - but was not overly keen on his theories. After some checking on the web it shows that his fact are dubious to say the least.
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