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Old 22nd January 2008, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by GratiaCorpusChristi View Post
Somebody's been interpreting Paul through Baptist eyes...
Yes, and I think that would be the Baptists!

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Old 8th June 2008, 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by champuru View Post
jesus only taught in a small area of israel
paul travelled through out the known world
also paul's social status was much more respectable than jesus's.
Surely God could have given Yehoshua and the original Apostles the same benefits and social position that he gave Paul!
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Enter in at the Manhole, there is where you'll find the answer you seek. Its on the shelf clear to the back filed under false doctrines
Seems you know your way around the gutter very well!

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Originally Posted by ABenShema View Post
If you would like to read a detailed critique on Paul (entitled: "Paul ~ False Apostle & First 'Christian'.") CLICK HERE.

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wait ... I thought you said we don't need to read to know the truth
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Originally Posted by ABenShema View Post
Seems you know your way around the gutter very well!

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Originally Posted by Thekla View Post
wait ... I thought you said we don't need to read to know the truth
Quite so. Books provide suggestions ~ pointers, like signposts. But they cannot reveal (SPIRITUAL) Truth (with a higher case "T"). The article about Paul reveals a worldly truth ~ not Spiritual Truth.

Hope you can understand and also comprehend
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Originally Posted by ABenShema View Post
Quite so. Books provide suggestions ~ pointers, like signposts. But they cannot reveal (SPIRITUAL) Truth (with a higher case "T"). The article about Paul reveals a worldly truth ~ not Spiritual Truth.

Hope you can understand and also comprehend
I thought knowing was more important
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My post may not be as educated as a lot of the others, but here's my opinion.

Jesus came to save the world. He died on the cross and shed all His blood so we could all receive salvation and eternal life. He also stated that no one comes to the Father except through Him(Christ). Jesus didn't say anything that the Father didn't say for Him to say, and I know this is kind of cliche sounding but... it must have been for a reason, God knows best.
Also taking into consideration, the reason Paul "was more accomplished" than Jesus is because He said, "You will do greater things than I".

But if you want to take another perspective on it, consider this... Paul really didn't do anything. Whatever He did was in the name of Jesus, commissioned by Jesus, and for Jesus. It was all about Jesus anyways, Paul wouldn't have done a thing unless Jesus hadn't gotten a hold of him. He only boasted in the Lord, He only claimed strength in the Lord, He basically claimed that he couldn't do a thing without Jesus. I'm sure than anyone saved in Paul's day would not claim to be saved in the name of Paul, but in the name of Jesus.

Jesus made such statements as "Unless you hate your father, mother, brother or sister, you cannot be my followers". Why would He say such things? He also said, "Those who have ears let them hear". Not everyone wanted to really actually follow Him, they just wanted a religion. But Jesus wanted TRUE followers, not just people.
Paul said that he would do anything it took to save people (outside of sinning). To the human eye, it would seem that Paul was doing more... but check this out!

Jesus came to BE the Gospel, Paul was sent to PREACH the Gospel.
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Everyone here has missed the obvious, stated clearly in Scripture: except for a chosen few, Jesus Hid the Truth in order that many would NOT be converted while He was on Earth. In the NT Isaiah is quoted that the Messiah would "speak to the people in parables, SO THAT THE TRUTH BE NOT KONW, ELSE THEY WOULD KNOW THE TRUTH AND REPENT."

Yes folks, Jesus deliberately obfuscated His message, and to many He said to keep miracles quiet.

Why would God deliberately confuse and mislead people from the Truth? So that thousands would NOT be convertewd until AFTER the crucufuxion. Imagine the slaughter of mobs
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