If this is supposed to be considered a ministry (a term I've heard a while back, not sure if it's valid nowadays)... then words that wouldn't be spoken in church should not be allowed.
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This puts staff in the strange position of givng infractions to those who use certain words in a mild, casual fashion (as in, "D--n. That hurt like h--l.") which suggests no harm or malice toward anyone, while allowing the utterly horrifying suggestion to be made that certain groups of human beings will be damned to hell.
I find the latter far more offensive.
Talk about straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel!
Last edited by Glass*Soul; 1st December 2007 at 10:01 AM.
Reason: Misspelled d--n. :D
Angel4Truth, you illustrate my point. You automatically assumed a file relates to an office, and you are a Supermoderator. It is entirely plausible that people would discuss their work on CF, which may be a ministry, but is NOT a church.
What some of us are trying to convey is that people from countries other than the US, and even in some cases in the US, do not all have the same word usage, or may have specialised word usage.
I am not advocating using foul language. I am stating that the definitions of foul language we are apparently expected to follow are not universal, they are based on US polite usage, and not all of us will be familiar with US polite usage.
If should be noted that staff still have some level of discretion, and infractions may not be automatic, especially in the case of new members, or possibly for the first violation.
The above is not considered a rule change, but more so a clarification of the existing rules, specifically in the case of words which are not censored, and how violations will be handled.
Those first two are not swearwords in Australia and New Zealand and should not be treated as such........
can someone tell me why its ok to dump all over my cultural norms. I am not impressed
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This is a christian board - whats wrong with guarding our tongues?
Has it been baptized? I hear that can really mess up a power supply.
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Real deal curse words existed in biblical times - its even spoken about in the OT which is even old than what i quoted but thats another thread.
Point being whats been decided here by administration is not unreasonable - it doesnt limit anyones ability to communicate and it in fact makes the board more pleasurable for all because these things do bother many people.
Lastly self control is one of the fruits of the Spirit.
Self control is not the same as bowing to American Evangelical whims.
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If this is supposed to be considered a ministry (a term I've heard a while back, not sure if it's valid nowadays)... then words that wouldn't be spoken in church should not be allowed.
I don't talk about software programing or PHP Web development in Church, but there's quite a bit of it in the Computer Section of Christianforums.
Given you logic (If it's not in church it shouldn't be in CF) then we need to get rid of 90% of CF.
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I'm so sorry, seriously, but.. I feel a George Carlin routine coming on:
Originally Posted by mnphysicist
Usage of the following, in other than Biblical context: damn hell bastard ass
The four words you can't say on CF. Sorry, ok, back to your regularly scheduled thread.
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question kiwi - you are complaining about what the majority of the board sees as a problem and that no one has the "right" to dictate as rules whats allowable by "american culture " but then give examples of your culture and want everyone to cater to it- how is that line of reasoning any different?
He is not advocating the use of force to enforce a rule and you are.
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I feel a George Carlin routine coming on:
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