Witnessing To Homosexuals

lovingod02 · #11 5th October 2009, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by raz!

im homosexual but im also christian...my sin doesnt make me any less devout as someone else. sin is sin.
my collegue at work has 'witnessed' to me about my sin and im more than willing to discuss it with him and discuss ways to be closer to Christ

and my advice to you is dont force it upon people or make them feel guilty. the guilt that people feel has led them to terrible things such as losing their faith, taking their own life etc.

be compassionate.

we all want people to be saved but we dont go around pin-pointing people's bad points and ploughing into them until they repent, so dont forget that there is a person beyond the sexuality. whether they are ready to change or not is between them and God and all you and i can do is lead them towards following Jesus. Christianity is absolutely wonderful and we want people to know that is it ALL about Jesus...not about being in a hetrosexual relationship

Hi raz! I agree with many things you shared here. That it is all about Christ and only Christ. You also shared that sin is sin and that my sin doesn't make me any less devout as someone else. I totally agree that sin is sin and a Holy God sees all sin as sin regardless of how we may see or feel about individual sins including our own. However, I'm curious as to how a sin can make me more or less devout to Christ. Isn't repenting all about surrendering to Christ and turning from our sins against Him? the conscience that God put in me would tell me that I'm not devoted to Him if I continue to rebel against Him and sin against Him. I may have misunderstood you here. Please clarify as I'd like to learn more.

lovingod02 · #12 5th October 2009, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by EnemyPartyII

To all those desperate to "witness to homosexuals";

Hi there. I don't know if those who are desperate to witness to homosexuals are really judging in the sense that Jesus was speaking about. I think some may, but perhaps not all. I think people are people and we are all pretty messed up, so I always thought it should be pretty easy for us all to see that we are desperately in need of a Savior. Of course I was wrong, so I could very well be wrong about people's intentions here to witness to homosexuals

However, Christ's command to make disciples and to preach the Gospel is pretty clear and straight forward. Now, that is to all people as all are sinners. Romans 3:10, 3:23

So I'm hoping that people are desperate to witness to everyone....that includes liars, thieves, blasphemers, adulterers, murderers, fornicators, idolaters,........and the list continues.....of which I'm all of these. Now, if no one had been desperate to witness to me and tell me about the wonderful and mighty Savior who I can surrender to, I would still be traveling 200 miles per hour straight into hell knowing that I'm a sinner and condemned already but not knowing any way out.

Ave Maria · #13 28th October 2009, 05:53 AM

Witness to homosexuals the same way you would witness to anyone else. Homosexuals are people just like you and I. They are not some kind of worse sinner than you and I. They are sinners just like you and I but they are not worse than you and I due to their sexuality. God accepts them for who they are. That said, when witnessing to a homosexual, try to be non-judgmental.

scrofford · #14 6th December 2009, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by raz!

im homosexual but im also christian...my sin doesnt make me any less devout as someone else. sin is sin.
my collegue at work has 'witnessed' to me about my sin and im more than willing to discuss it with him and discuss ways to be closer to Christ

and my advice to you is dont force it upon people or make them feel guilty. the guilt that people feel has led them to terrible things such as losing their faith, taking their own life etc.

be compassionate.

we all want people to be saved but we dont go around pin-pointing people's bad points and ploughing into them until they repent, so dont forget that there is a person beyond the sexuality. whether they are ready to change or not is between them and God and all you and i can do is lead them towards following Jesus. Christianity is absolutely wonderful and we want people to know that is it ALL about Jesus...not about being in a hetrosexual relationship

The truth is that you CANNOT be a Christian and CONTINUE in homosexuality. In the new testament Paul explicitly says that no homosexuals will enter the kingdom of Heaven. He says to quit sinning and live for Jesus Christ. 1 Corinthians 6:9 is a good verse to start with.

You say that sin is sin...Homosexuality IS sin according to the Word of God and if you claim to be a Christian then you claim that you believe the WHOLE Bible...not just what you want to believe. So if that's the case and you say you are saved, then you need to understand that if you are a practicing homosexual...then you are not living for God and are living a lie. And if you are living a lie, then how can you inherit the Kingdom of God?

scrofford · #15 6th December 2009, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by andreha

That's the thing. None of us are allowed to judge. After all, it is written that if you call on the name of the Lord Jesus you will be saved. Signed, sealed and delivered. People don't realise that being a Christian is about being under His constant influence. Whatever changes we need to go through to make it into His kingdom will be done in time. After all, with Jesus as the author and perfector of our faith, He is not going to leave anything unfinished in any of us. It's only by grace that anyone can be saved, not by works. I as a heterosexual Christian, am at least as dependant, if not more on the Lord's grace than you are. In Christ, all of us will be shaped, molded according to the Lord's will. None of us are able to make it without His grace, His influence and His teaching.

One thing you are forgetting is the fact that when you accept Christ, you are submitting to HIS Lordship. The Bible is our manual and we as Christians are supposed to live by it. IT IS FOR TODAY by the way. If the Bible says that we are supposed to stop doing something AFTER we are "saved" we need to obey the Word.

We are also as the Body of Christ supposed to admonish and help one another. We are supposed to pray for one another also. We are supposed to be our brothers keeper...Yes that is true. We also are supposed to call sin sin and judge if we see a SUPPOSED CHRISTIAN BROTHER OR SISTER SINNING.

Yes if you call on the name of Jesus you will be saved, but you have to continue in DYING TO YOURSELF and living for HIM. Its not about God serving us. Its all about us serving God. That means we as Christians need to change and stop the sin that was in our lives before we got saved. If we have trouble doing that then we need to ask for God's help. I am so tired of hearing that you can get saved and not have to change! Following Jesus is the hardest thing someone could do! We are called to live HOLY...not mediocre! We are called to be a light to this world...not still live like the world! Read your Bible and start understanding these basic things!

scrofford · #16 6th December 2009, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by EnemyPartyII

To all those desperate to "witness to homosexuals";

It's not about "judging" them before they are Christians. Its about telling them about Jesus Christ. After they become Christians, in order to be a Christian for that matter, they have to renounce homosexuality and choose to live for Jesus Christ. That simple.

hogndog · #17 16th December 2009, 01:43 AM

Originally Posted by andreha

That's the thing. None of us are allowed to judge. After all, it is written that if you call on the name of the Lord Jesus you will be saved. Signed, sealed and delivered. People don't realise that being a Christian is about being under His constant influence. Whatever changes we need to go through to make it into His kingdom will be done in time. After all, with Jesus as the author and perfector of our faith, He is not going to leave anything unfinished in any of us. It's only by grace that anyone can be saved, not by works. I as a heterosexual Christian, am at least as dependant, if not more on the Lord's grace than you are. In Christ, all of us will be shaped, molded according to the Lord's will. None of us are able to make it without His grace, His influence and His teaching.

You probably wouldn't be in this fix if the English language hadn't been changed entirely the opposite of the English in Gods word. Sodomy is a word that has been replaced by gay. Whats gay about it is anyone's guess. I was attacked when the word was Sodomy a crime beyond apprehension. I Its not what we think mate its what Jesus thinks..

Hogndog

daviddub · #18 10th February 2010, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by raz!

im homosexual but im also christian...my sin doesnt make me any less devout as someone else. sin is sin.
my collegue at work has 'witnessed' to me about my sin and im more than willing to discuss it with him and discuss ways to be closer to Christ

and my advice to you is dont force it upon people or make them feel guilty. the guilt that people feel has led them to terrible things such as losing their faith, taking their own life etc.

be compassionate.

we all want people to be saved but we dont go around pin-pointing people's bad points and ploughing into them until they repent, so dont forget that there is a person beyond the sexuality. whether they are ready to change or not is between them and God and all you and i can do is lead them towards following Jesus. Christianity is absolutely wonderful and we want people to know that is it ALL about Jesus...not about being in a hetrosexual relationship

We must be very careful about this "dont...make feel" guilty thing. The problem is that even if a person is kind and gentle, at some point, if you recognize that the other person is correct (YOU WILL FEEL GUILTY). This is rightly so, since as the word of God says (ALL ARE GUILTY). Now it may be incorrect to feel ashamed, however guilty is a right feeling. We have to recognize between someone else "making" us feel guilty, and our actually recognizing that we ARE guilty while talking to someone else.

singpeace · #19 23rd March 2010, 12:08 AM

You have VALID point. I know it is specifically mentioned as an abomination; as is lying, cheating in business, gossiping, tale-bearing ... over 200 things in the Bible are called abominations. So God tells us all these sins are THE VERY SAME. So if I am a straight, married wife of a minister... but I indulge in gossip... I am guilty guilty guilty. If someone else partakes in homosexual acts but wouldn't say a single word against an enemy... well, there you go. There is no difference. Thank God we can't buy or win our way into his kingdom.

ADNox2 · #20 5th April 2010, 08:22 PM