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Old 21st October 2003, 10:48 PM
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You are nuts! do you really think the corporate leaders of the barbie company are trying to get young girls to practice witchcraft. My mother is pagan and i'm as christian as jesus was! I don' t have a problem with witchcraft. Most of its users use the power for good and not for evil! My mother also doesn't go around telling people to practice witchcraft. before you criticize its users you should find out more about other religions!
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Old 22nd October 2003, 12:22 AM
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Hey Avenger21 welcome to CF! Have fun but this "You are nuts!" is a little rude, now if you don't agree then just say you don't agree, but lets not fall into name calling (at least not until you've been here for a while! ) Anyway welcome and be blessed!
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Old 22nd October 2003, 12:32 AM
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Even if there is a "Wiccan Barbie"... so what?

There are thousands of Christian toys out there, why can't we have toys for our children that identify with our religion?

If you don't like it... don't buy it. Apparently there's enough of the buying public out there that doesn't have a problem with it that Mattel thinks it won't hurt sales and will make a profit. Despite what you choose to believe it's not hurting anyone, especially not you if you exercise your right not to buy it.
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Old 22nd October 2003, 09:35 AM
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May I just add, as a final note from me on this I think, that toys are toys? They are toys. There are millions and millions out there. Most of them, we've never even heard of. Half of them we'd probably say are stupid. Barbie is stupid. Her whole line of dolls (wether you love 'em or hate 'em) serve no real purpose. They're not going to be a source of religious revolution in children. Ever. To even think such a think denotes (to me) a total lack of perspective.

If the world is finding time to debate the spiritual impact of Barbie (and only one doll in a line that streches probably around the globe several times if we bothered to line them up) then we simply (myself included) have way too much time on our hands.
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Old 22nd October 2003, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Avenger21
You are nuts! do you really think the corporate leaders of the barbie company are trying to get young girls to practice witchcraft. My mother is pagan and i'm as christian as jesus was! I don' t have a problem with witchcraft. Most of its users use the power for good and not for evil! My mother also doesn't go around telling people to practice witchcraft. before you criticize its users you should find out more about other religions!
Hmmmm - Jesus had a problem with witchcraft!

GALATIONS 5:19 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; [20] idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions [21] and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
That said, Welcome to CF!

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Old 22nd October 2003, 11:46 AM
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Jesus never mentioned Witchcraft. Neither does your Bible until King James put it in there.
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Originally Posted by newlamb
Hmmmm - Jesus had a problem with witchcraft!
Except this doll has nothing to do with real witchcraft.
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Originally Posted by Havoc
Even if there is a "Wiccan Barbie"... so what?

There are thousands of Christian toys out there, why can't we have toys for our children that identify with our religion?

If you don't like it... don't buy it. Apparently there's enough of the buying public out there that doesn't have a problem with it that Mattel thinks it won't hurt sales and will make a profit. Despite what you choose to believe it's not hurting anyone, especially not you if you exercise your right not to buy it.
1000's of Christian toys???? Can you give me an example please?
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Old 22nd October 2003, 02:04 PM
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Sure, when my son was little he had a toy nativity set. It was put out by Avon, I think. Oh, he also had the tupperware Noah's ark toy set. That is two off the top of my head.
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