Personally, I see the whole barbie thing as rather silly anyway. If I wanted to be overly critical then I could say that she teaches little girls many other things that are bad. Materialism, vanity, selfishness, etc....
Would I buy a "Wiccan Barbie" for my daughter? No. (Of course, she's far too young to care about such things right now.) I choose to be a parent and decide what toys are good for her to have. Bottom line: If you're offended by this version of Barbie then maybe you shouldn't buy it for your child nor allow anyone else to. Be a parent.
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Doing a C&P from my post in the other thread on this subject, I got permission from myself first.
What I still find interesting is this, I have googled it everyday since the first thread about this came up, I cross refferenced "secret spells barbie" ( the name it is called at web desk) and "mattel" here's what comes up.
Your search - secret spells barbie site:mattel.com - did not match any documents.
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Well surely Toys R US must have it right? I mean they still carry lawns darts and we all know how safe that is, I mean who wouldn't want there kids putting a plastic loop at their feet and having their friend hurl a razor sharp metal stake at them while taunting them that they can't throw hard enough?
But alas...
Toys search results: we were unable to find exact matches for your search for secret spells barbie .
Would you like to search again?
Where exactly is the general public going to buy this doll in the first place?
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I saw dozens of these dolls at Toys R Us. Just because they haven't updated their search engines online doesn't mean this doll doesn't exist. It is a Mattel product. Why they don't have it on their barbie.com website is beyond me, but the fact is, whether you want to believe it or not, the doll does exist and it is a Mattel product, not some "knockoff". There are even commercials for it (that's how I found out about the doll in the first place, by seeing the commercial). Inspired, I'm sorry but I simply can't figure out why you find this so hard to believe. It took me all of five minutes to walk into Toys R Us and verify it.
Apparently other groups are growing concerned. You know, Barbie has done a lot of things. There's Veterinarian Barbie, Stewerdess Barbie, Doctor Barbie, School Teacher Barbie and even an Astronaut Barbie but I can't for the life of me remember a Barbie that was "a schoolgirl by day" but something else at night. Again, if it's okay for Barbie to practice "white magic" (read:"witchcraft" if you will, it's just another word for it and it's clearly on the box), why does she have to hide it? We're not talking diaries and secret crushes on boys. We're talking secret activities designed to be hidden from school and parents. Because we all know what would happen to Barbie if she tried to practice "white magic" at school now, right? Rituals and spellbooks hidden in her locker?
If they made a "Christian Barbie" or even a "Secret Bible" Barbie ("She's a normal schoolgirl by day, but at night she reads the bible and recites the Pledge of Allegiance with the words 'Under God' real loud!"), then I probably wouldn't complain at all. But "Bible Barbie" simply wouldn't sell to the Britney Spears-Midriff-Showing bunch, now, would she? Catholic School Barbie would be a joke. But make a Paganistic Barbie and the country rejoices (and the forums will defend Mattel!).
Heh. What is on the Mattel site was there before you sent an e-mail. The doll has already been released, and the doll can be found at ukbarbiecom under the name "Charm Girl Barbie". Here's the verbage from that site:
Charm Girls™ Barbie® and her friends Christie® and Kayla® are regular high school girls that have special powers! The dolls have a fashion transformation that turns each of them into magical enchantresses. Girls can help Barbie® and her friends create "magical" mixes for love, luck, or happiness. They can actually drink the magical mixes, too! Each set comes with a mixing spoon, "magic" pot, recipe booklet and two packets of ingredients and a plastic pet, too!"
Mattel knows exactly what they are promoting. These dolls are witches.
"Swan Lake" barbie is magical but she's a character in a fairy tale. She's a princess 24/7 and isn't ashamed to say so. "Secret Spells" Barbie is "normal" by day and a witch by night. It's her Vocation.
So now everyone has all the information I can gather about this doll, correct and verified. Again, look the other way if you want, but I think it's horrifying and is just one more way that big business and the media worms their not-so-trusted values into our homes.
Plant a seed, nurture it, and it will grow. Flower or weed, it will still grow. What kind of seeds are we planting?
Charm Girls™ Barbie® and her friends Christie® and Kayla® are regular high school girls that have special powers! The dolls have a fashion transformation that turns each of them into magical enchantresses.
A lot of kid's fantasies play to the whole idea of having secret powers. It sounds a lot like Sailor Moon, if you ask me.
Originally Posted by MrsMom
Mattel knows exactly what they are promoting. These dolls are witches.
No they're not. I've read up on Wicca/Witchcraft, and any resemblance to real Witchcraft is quite the stretch. What these dolls are promoting is pure fantasy.
Again, look the other way if you want, but I think it's horrifying and is just one more way that big business and the media worms their not-so-trusted values into our homes.
Out of curiosity, do you feel the same way about Mary Poppins and The Wizard of Oz?
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uk barbie . com
has nothing to do with Mattel, it's a personal site.
It's "uk dot barbie dot com". Important to leave in the dots. You can get to uk . barbie . com by clicking "worldwide barbie" on the official Mattel www barbie.com link you provided us earlier. I'm not allowed to actually provide links in posts until I have 15 posts. That's not my fault and I refuse to "spam" just so I can post a link.
Honestly, you are very stubborn, Inspired. Quite frankly, I'm tired of defending myself against you. It's like trying to talk to a brick wall. For the last time: the doll exists, it's a Mattel product, and everything I have said about the doll including the write-up on the box is 100% true. If you don't care about the issue or are not interested in it then for pete's sake find something else to do. I get the feeling you are delibrately trying to confuse the issue by posting all these links to other products and websites you assume I must be discussing, and saying that because you don't think the doll exists, it must not exist. I'm not sure why you choose to muddle up my issue, as I am a first-time poster and surely have never caused you any harm, but after your last post it is obvious you have something to prove. I'll just let you at it then and find another set of forums to chit-chat in. After this headache I won't be reading or posting at christianforums.com anymore.
MrsMom, I don't see you responding to my post though. Don't you think it's hypocritical to buy Barbie for your children, but stop because they come out with a spells Barbie? I mean after all, the original ones promoted some very bad values as well (beauty, materialism, etc) that I believe are against Christianity. Is it okay to support Barbie and those habits, so long as she isn't doing magic?
The doll should have never had support to begin with. :/
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It's "uk dot barbie dot com". Important to leave in the dots. You can get to uk . barbie . com by clicking "worldwide barbie" on the official Mattel www barbie.com link you provided us earlier. I'm not allowed to actually provide links in posts until I have 15 posts. That's not my fault and I refuse to "spam" just so I can post a link.
It would have caused a lot less confusion if you would have posted the name of the link correctly, even if this site won't let you create a link. Personally, I read it as www.ukbarbie.com, just as inspired did. I'll post the correct one for you: http://uk.barbie.com . Now, having found the correct site (as I couldn't find any reference to it on the first site I went to), I noticed that the barbie is listed under the "trendy" listing. I would guess these dolls are basically patterned after the television show "Charmed". The show "Charmed" is not related to Wicca at all. These dolls are not created as a religious or political statement. They are created to make money off a currently popular show and a trend toward "magic" stories.
Originally Posted by MrsMom
After this headache I won't be reading or posting at christianforums.com anymore.
Very confused,
MrsMom
That's a shame. You shouldn't base a decision on such limited exposure. Oh well.
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