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22nd October 2003, 05:38 PM
|  | Buttercup Atheist
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Reps: 11 (power: 0) | | Good find, Notto. Here's another one:
Heartstring Angel Barbie 
...poised as if to play a violin to lift your heart and soul.
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22nd October 2003, 05:41 PM
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Reps: 308,330 (power: 324) | | I think the angel Barbies have more to do with the angel craze than with Christianity.  |
22nd October 2003, 05:45 PM
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Reps: 33,621 (power: 54) | | Originally Posted by sweetkitty I think the angel Barbies have more to do with the angel craze than with Christianity.
Then you should understand that Secret Magic Barbie has little to do with Wicca.
Agreed? |
22nd October 2003, 05:48 PM
| | God lives in us
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Reps: 308,330 (power: 324) | | Originally Posted by notto Then you should understand that Secret Magic Barbie has little to do with Wicca.
Agreed?
I never claimed to begin with that it had anything to do with Wicca. |
22nd October 2003, 05:49 PM
| | Buttercup Atheist
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Reps: 11 (power: 0) | | And, OH NO! Look at these "pagan" dolls? http://www.barbiecollectibles.com/sh...ries_id=150027
Goddess of Wisdom (complete with pet owl)
Goddess of Beauty (Venus/Aphrodite)
Goddess of Spring - "Not since the 3rd century B.C. has a goddess had so many followers."
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Imagine there's no heaven ~ It's easy if you try ~ No hell below us ~ Above us only sky ~ Imagine all the people living for today. Imagine there's no countries ~ It isnt hard to do ~ Nothing to kill or die for ~No religion too ~ Imagine all the people living life in peace. Imagine no possesions ~ I wonder if you can ~ Noneed for greed or hunger ~ A brotherhood of man ~ Imagine all the people sharing all the world.
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22nd October 2003, 05:53 PM
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Reps: 33,621 (power: 54) | | Originally Posted by sweetkitty I really think most toys are non- religious in nature. I'd also bet that those of you defending Wiccan Barbie would be upset if a Christian Barbie was introduced. .
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22nd October 2003, 05:54 PM
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Reps: 11 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by sweetkitty I'd also bet that those of you defending Wiccan Barbie would be upset if a Christian Barbie was introduced.
We would hear cries of how unfair that is and how toys should be non-religious and how that other religions aren't being represented.
Wiccan has to do with Wicca.
Angels are Christian symbols.
So, yes you did make a connection between the doll and Wicca. And you were wrong, there has been no cries of how unfair it is that there are Christian Barbie dolls.
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22nd October 2003, 06:52 PM
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Reps: 41,540 (power: 60) | | Originally Posted by sweetkitty Ok so veggie tales a nativity set and a noah's ark.
So that adds up to 1000's???
I really think most toys are non- religious in nature. I'd also bet that those of you defending Wiccan Barbie would be upset if a Christian Barbie was introduced.
We would hear cries of how unfair that is and how toys should be non-religious and how that other religions aren't being represented.
You claimed it here, Kitty.
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23rd October 2003, 02:31 AM
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You seem to be confusing the constitutional mandated separation of Church and State with private and corporate rights.
Mattel has every right to produce a Christian Barbie if it so chooses, and there ain't a darn thing any of us, or the Government, or the Church, or my dog, could do about it; save protest with our paychecks. Mattel could produce a Wiccan, or a Buddhist, or an Islamic, or even a Satanist Barbie if they wanted to. That is their right.
Mattel, or any big business for that matter, makes what sells...period. If a "Wiccan" Barbie sells and a Christian Barbie wouldn't, maybe you should be spending less time in "righteous indignation" and more time figuring out why you have so little influence on people?
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23rd October 2003, 02:41 AM
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