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19th October 2003, 03:44 AM
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19th October 2003, 11:02 AM
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Reps: 295,212,687,427,838,720 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by ashibaka Well, we all know where they went-- to the Christians-only "science" forum where they don't have to go through that whole tedious process of validating their evidence!
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19th October 2003, 12:17 PM
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19th October 2003, 09:49 PM
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A t-rex coprolite with crunched up bones from another dinosaur has been found so not only were dinosaurs walking around and laying eggs during the worldwide flood that was depositing thousands of feet of sediment everywhere, they were eating and pooping. http://www-geology.ucdavis.edu/~GEL3/kingcoprolite.html
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19th October 2003, 10:30 PM
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Reps: 24 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Frumious Bandersnatch I doubt if Chris is "scared off" but he has a lot to answer right now.
--And will have a lot to answer well into the future. That is, if I don't cross-over to the "dark side" anytime soon. 
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19th October 2003, 10:32 PM
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--Hm.. I guess they were inclined to hold it in for a year at the sight of water. Cheers, -Chris Grose |
20th October 2003, 08:09 PM
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You'd think just the opposite would have happened. I mean if you saw a big ol worldwide flood commin at ya wouldn't it just scare the **** out of you? 
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20th October 2003, 08:34 PM
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Reps: 24 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Frumious Bandersnatch You'd think just the opposite would have happened. I mean if you saw a big ol worldwide flood commin at ya wouldn't it just scare the **** out of you?
--Haha, maybe we can do an analysis of coprolites to help envision the dynamics of their defecation. When you get the **** scared out of you, you get some serious acceleration--those things fly. Were they just minding their own business and pooping around, or were they crapping for their lives?
--But seriously, we see coprolites in the fossil record and this isn't a big surprize. Whether they got the **** scared out of them or they just had to go.
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20th October 2003, 08:53 PM
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Reps: 19,183,710,574,649,584 (power: 19,183,710,574,664) | | Originally Posted by TrueCreation --Haha, maybe we can do an analysis of coprolites to help envision the dynamics of their defecation. When you get the **** scared out of you, you get some serious acceleration--those things fly. Were they just minding their own business and pooping around, or were they crapping for their lives?
--But seriously, we see coprolites in the fossil record and this isn't a big surprize. Whether they got the **** scared out of them or they just had to go.
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Ya but **** floats so how did coprolites and in some cases clearly dried out coprolites get buried with the animals that deposited them? http://home.entouch.net/dmd/poop.htm
Do you suppose the flood also scared the dinosaurs into building nests and laying eggs? It must have been pretty scary since it had deposited several thousand feet of sediment under them before they laid the eggs. (Added in edit: I guess that's why they were "making tracks"  )
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20th October 2003, 09:33 PM
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--its quite simple to point out Morton's fallacy here (it was a rather humerous essay in my opinion ): Originally Posted by Morton's essay Now, the real question for the young-earth creationists is, what were turtles doing coming ashore during the global flood, when there wasn't supposed to be any land?
--I think I have said it more than once that various environmental conditions (including local water depth, or whether there was water at all in the region) will vary geographically. After a certain sedimentary deposit it could have been several days or even weeks before there would be another deposit on top of this one. That the turtle coprolite in Morton's article exhibits dessication cracks from drying out is no big surprise. Do you suppose the flood also scared the dinosaurs into building nests and laying eggs?
--No, they just did what their species was either created for, or has been doing for several hundred million years, attempting to preserve the species. As far as we can tell, the most prominent function of most animals is to eat, reproduce, and die. Besides, general consensus has it that dino's were not the most intelligent creatures on the planet. It must have been pretty scary since it had deposited several thousand feet of sediment under them before they laid the eggs.
--You sure they didn't lay the eggs and then the sediment came to burry them?
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