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Is Faith a science? If faith is a science then everything that is validated by faith is science and should be considered as scientific research
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Old 27th October 2007, 08:23 AM
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Is Faith a science? If faith is a science then everything that is validated by faith is science and should be considered as scientific research
Absolutely correct! if faith is science then it should be considered scientific research.

Fortunately, faith is as far from science as you can possibly get, and as such has nothing in common with scientific research except the letters f, a, i, t and h.
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Originally Posted by forumtengu View Post
Is Faith a science?
No. Faith is belief in the irrational (i.e., belief in that which for which no rationale has been given). Science is a logically-derivable method by which the most probable explanation is picked from however many are presented.
Science tells us what to believe based on reasoned arguments. Faith, by definition, is belief in things without reasoned arguments. Thus, faith is the antithesis science.

Originally Posted by forumtengu View Post
If faith is a science then everything that is validated by faith is science and should be considered as scientific research
Naturally. However, faith is not a science, so this line of reasoning is moot.
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Originally Posted by forumtengu View Post
Is Faith a science? If faith is a science then everything that is validated by faith is science and should be considered as scientific research
No. Science relies on evidence. Faith abhors evidence.

This is just a very odd question, really.
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The only question that comes to mind is if this junked up thread has anything to do with faith or science. If you pit faith against science then you understand the meaning of neither.
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The only question that comes to mind is if this junked up thread has anything to do with faith or science. If you pit faith against science then you understand the meaning of neither.


That was completely non sequitor and nonsensical mark. That made no sense.

Science is the study of things which are backed by tangible, observeable, repeatable evidence.

Faith is the belief in things without tangible, observable, repeatable evidence.

Belief in ghosts for exaxmple is faith and not science. Acceptance of Evolution is science and not faith as there is observable, repeatable, and tangible evidence for Evolution and not Ghosts.
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That was completely non sequitor and nonsensical mark. That made no sense.

Science is the study of things which are backed by tangible, observeable, repeatable evidence.

Faith is the belief in things without tangible, observable, repeatable evidence.

Belief in ghosts for exaxmple is faith and not science. Acceptance of Evolution is science and not faith as there is observable, repeatable, and tangible evidence for Evolution and not Ghosts.
Ah, but it's important to note that belief in ghosts can go from irrational faith to justified belief if evidence is presented. Indeed, those who claim to have experianced such things may very well believe that they did have an encounter with a ghost (and who knows, maybe they did!). Those people would be entirely justified in their belief in ghosts: they have, for all intents and purposes, experianced the evidence first hand.
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Ah, but it's important to note that belief in ghosts can go from irrational faith to justified belief if evidence is presented.
Of course it can, but to date no evidence has been presented. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
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Of course it can, but to date no evidence has been presented. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No *conclusive* evidence, you mean. Plenty of evidence has been presented, but it is as yet inadequate to prove beyond all reasonable doubt that ghosts exist.

However inconclusive they may be (and I agree that they are very inconclusive), personal experiences and anecdotes are still evidence!

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Originally Posted by mark kennedy View Post
The only question that comes to mind is if this junked up thread has anything to do with faith or science. If you pit faith against science then you understand the meaning of neither.
Does the OP pit faith against science? I thought it was attempting to equate faith with science.
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