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Old 12th October 2003, 04:27 PM
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lol, they're reduced to cheap stunts, because nothing else has worked. Could they just give up and admit that creationism is falsified? Would it really destroy their belief in God?
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Creationism hasn't been falsified - more specifically, it's ex hypothesis incapable of falsification (unless God actually comes down and denies it), and that's a big weakness for it as a scientific theory.
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Originally Posted by burrow_owl
Creationism hasn't been falsified - more specifically, it's ex hypothesis incapable of falsification (unless God actually comes down and denies it), and that's a big weakness for it as a scientific theory.
Creationism has been falsified. Creation has not.
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Originally Posted by burrow_owl
Creationism hasn't been falsified - more specifically, it's ex hypothesis incapable of falsification (unless God actually comes down and denies it), and that's a big weakness for it as a scientific theory.
Creationism is the specific "how" of creation, and because it makes testable claims (i.e. the world is only so many years old, all life was created at roughly the same time, a world-wide flood took place in recent history), those claims can be falsified. However, creation (that is the idea God created everything) is unfalsifiable, and hence, cannot qualify as a scientific hypothesis (since all hypotheses in science must be subject to falsification).
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yeah - i guess where i'm having analytic problems is that specific claims are falsifiable, but the creationists can then just tweak the theory here and there in ad hoc fashion to account for the new evidence. what i was thinking earlier re: its weakness is that because people have such personal stock in the theory for religious reasons, it's hard to imagine that the falsification of particular claims would ever render the larger theory unpalatable to its exponents.

that's the long-winded way of saying y'all were right.
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Perhaps the most pointless stunt ever. If he wanted to help his cause he'd get off the horse, start digging in the ground, and prays he finds something that could actually be considered evidence against evolution.
Well, whatever "evidence" he does claim would probably come out of the horse anyway...

Either God talks to all of us directly, "Straight from the horse's mouth," so to speak,

Or just another PRATT list, coming from the other end of said horse...


LOL nathan, yes, you should be banned for that!
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Creationism is pure fact. Evolution can not be exactly proven either. Our kids are being brainwashed by people who have no grip of reality. Reality is a world where athiests and those who support evolution surely dont live. It is ashamed at how kids are lied to being told that they evolved from a monkey. I wonder why monkeys have not started talking yet and we do. It is amazing to me as well why we do not swing from trees. Evolution is one of the biggest frauds of our time. It truly is so sad how people are so far from reality. If you want to live in lala land then go ahead but there are some of us who choose to be in tune with reality. The reality is found in Genesis. Genesis is in the error free book that God gave us to live by. Read it sometime and believe it. It will do you some good if you just trust what it says as pure fact. Evolution comes from pure ignorance to the facts of how we got here.
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I commend this minister for what he is doing we need more like him. He is a defender of the truth. He is probably just as frustrated about lies being taught to students as well. Let me know when we start swinging from trees, grow tails, and can no longer talk.
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Originally Posted by JEREMY O'ROURKE
Creationism is pure fact. Evolution can not be exactly proven either. Our kids are being brainwashed by people who have no grip of reality. Reality is a world where athiests and those who support evolution surely dont live. It is ashamed at how kids are lied to being told that they evolved from a monkey. I wonder why monkeys have not started talking yet and we do. It is amazing to me as well why we do not swing from trees. Evolution is one of the biggest frauds of our time. It truly is so sad how people are so far from reality. If you want to live in lala land then go ahead but there are some of us who choose to be in tune with reality. The reality is found in Genesis. Genesis is in the error free book that God gave us to live by. Read it sometime and believe it. It will do you some good if you just trust what it says as pure fact. Evolution comes from pure ignorance to the facts of how we got here.
Can you give us a list of actual scientific studies, books, classes, etc. that you have read, taken, reviewed that would show that you are qualified to make this assessment?

Have you read Origin of a Species?

The best and brightest of our scientific minds disagree with you (both Christian and non-Christian). Why would that be if what you say is true?
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