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11th October 2003, 08:07 AM
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Grain-Fed Beef vs Grass-Fed Beef Grain-Fed Beef - Added Hormones: Usually
- Fed Antibiotics: Usually
- Fed Grain: Yes
- Omega-3 Fatty Acid: 0.1
- Omega-6 Fatty Acid: 3.1
- CLA: 0.21
- Beta Carotene: 41
- Vitamin E: 1.3
- Vitamin A: 10
- Total Fat: High & Saturated
- Flavor: Bland/Pasty
- All Other Factors: Fair
- E. coli Danger: High
Grass-Fed Beef- Added Hormones: No
- Fed Antibiotics: No
- Fed Grain: No
- Omega-3 Fatty Acid: 1.22
- Omega-6 Fatty Acid: 1.08
- CLA: 1.46
- Beta Carotene: 87
- Vitamin E: 5.3
- Vitamin A: 52
- Total Fat: Proper Balance
- Flavor: Original and Bold
- All Other Factors: Perfect
- E. coli Danger: Minimal
links http://texasgrassfedbeef.com/
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30th October 2003, 02:58 PM
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30th October 2003, 05:13 PM
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31st October 2003, 04:57 PM
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Something is seriously wrong with the way us Americans are viewing animals as food. It is natural to eat meat, and God said it was good, that which was created to be received anyway (the clean animals). But something is seriously wrong when we begin to go against nature and feed vegetarian animals to each other to make a buck and cut costs. It's like Paul said, "Doth not nature itself teach?"
I like that fact that someone posted this thread, it shows someone cares about diet, which is what I believe is causing a lot of ailments today. I try and eat organic products when I can, but it is expensive sometimes. I think it is worth it though, and aside from being most healthy, it supports others who care about the well being of the animals and what they're doing to them. They care about their environment. That has to be rewarded.
Of the many things that I've seen going on in today's American farming industry and just how they treat cows and chickens in particular....I was VERY close to becoming a full blown vegetarian. Some of the things going on just literall plain make me sick to my stomach. But seeings how we are meant to eat meat and I crave it, and also bodybuild, I have to seek it out where I can get it in the healthiest way.
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1st November 2003, 07:00 PM
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8th May 2004, 12:02 AM
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Something is seriously wrong with the way us Americans are viewing animals as food. It is natural to eat meat, and God said it was good, that which was created to be received anyway (the clean animals). But something is seriously wrong when we begin to go against nature and feed vegetarian animals to each other to make a buck and cut costs. It's like Paul said, "Doth not nature itself teach?"
I agree 100% that there is a huge problem with the way people view animals as food. It's as though in order to deny our natural compassion, we have to go so completely overboard that it becomes a complete mockery to the lives of the animals which were taken to put their flesh on our plates. On practically every thread where the topic is mentioned, someone has found the need to flaunt their callousness toward animal suffering. What they don't seem to realize is that this is the same psychological shield people often build in times of war. The only way to continue to kill others and protect one's self against the emotional damage is to over-compensate by appearing completely unaffected, even to the point of making obvious gestures to show how little you have retained natural human compassion. What is revealed in reality, is exactly the opposite.
However, I must disagree with part of your statement. It isn't only when we feed animal proteins to ruminants that we spit in the face of nature. When we put the flesh of animals on our own plates, we're feeding meat to an animal which is naturally a vegetarian. Odd how we can classify oher animals based on their physiology but completely ignore our own. "The grading of forms, organic functions, customs and diets showed in an evident way that the normal food of man is vegetable like the anthropoids and apes and that our canine teeth are less developed than theirs and that we are not destined to compete with wild beasts or carnivorous animals." -- Charles Darwin Originally Posted by Key Of David I like that fact that someone posted this thread, it shows someone cares about diet, which is what I believe is causing a lot of ailments today. I try and eat organic products when I can, but it is expensive sometimes. I think it is worth it though, and aside from being most healthy, it supports others who care about the well being of the animals and what they're doing to them. They care about their environment. That has to be rewarded.
I'm not sure if my perspective is clear or not but it does seem to me that an awareness of diet is growing at an accelerated rate. Perhaps someday that awareness will even grant man the wisdom to seriously question some long-held beliefs on a grand scale. I have from an early age abjured the use of meat, and the time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look upon the murder of men." -- Leonardo da Vinci (from da Vinci's Notes) Originally Posted by Key Of David Of the many things that I've seen going on in today's American farming industry and just how they treat cows and chickens in particular....I was VERY close to becoming a full blown vegetarian. Some of the things going on just literall plain make me sick to my stomach. But seeings how we are meant to eat meat and I crave it, and also bodybuild, I have to seek it out where I can get it in the healthiest way.
Anywayz, thanks for the link man. 
It seems that the choice we're left with is to become sick to our stomachs and discontinue promoting such actions, (by choosing not to pay these people to continue their practices), or to continue mocking the animals deaths and our own deaths suffered from the toxicity of the diet we have chosen.
As concerns your bodybuilding and to your cravings, it's odd how most people who make the choice to stop eating meat never crave it and are, in fact, disgusted by the thought of eating it after abstaining for only a short while. It's not the meat that you crave. It's the secure sensation you obtain by having a heavy lump of mass in your gut. That same feeling is rarely if ever obtained by the ingestion of vegetable matter. But it's much like the secure feeling offered by an old favorite pair of shoes. After you've given them up, you start to realize that the comfort you found in wearing them was little more than familiarity. Feeling so stuffed and full after having abstained from meat long enough to adapt to the comfort of new feelings leaves you wanting to avoid feeling so weighed down. There are no nutrients available in meat that aren't found in sufficient quantities in plant-based foods. No special precautions need be taken to obtain sufficient nutrients. If you're getting sufficient calories on natural foods, then unless you're restricting yourself to just fruits or just grains, or some other equally off-balance choice you're getting all the nutrients your body needs even if you're bodybuilding. "Some people are still going to want to eat meat.. we do agree though that vegetarianism is a healthier diet." --David Stroud of the American Meat Institute
In seeking nutrients from animal-based foods, you more than double your chances of developing many types of cancers, increase your risk of heart attack and stroke 10-fold, multiply your ingestion of toxic pesticide residues by more than 800% and substantially improve your odds of developing diabetes, osteoporosis, kidney disfunction, hypertension, ulcers and many others.
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8th May 2004, 09:09 PM
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Reps: 560,441 (power: 581) | | Originally Posted by MichaelFJF Just make sure you steer (I kill me) clear of beef fed beef. M
More truth in that than you care to admit.
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9th June 2004, 04:54 AM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | | People have forgotten that good food costs a lot. Foor should be a major portion of our budgets. It is more important than medical care as it can prevent most of it.
Instead, people only want to pay the minimum for food and therefore they get what they pay for. This is because people think we need all the luxuries that we have. Our incomes should pay for food, shelter, clothing. There is not need for much more. Once people remember this, they will be able to eat better and live as a result live better. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | | | |