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Here is a great deal. You can get Kent Hovinds Creation Seminar almost 15 hours on CD Rom from http://www.biblebelievers.com/hovind/hovind_cd.html for only $8 I payed over $100 for my VHS set IF anyone hasnt seen Kent Hovind it is well worth it. Even if you have seen him you cant beat $8 dollars for 15 hours of good material. The topics included are:
1 The Age of the Earth
2 The Garden of Eden
3 Dinosaurs and the Bible
4 Lies in the textbooks
5 Dangers of Evolution
6 The Hovind Theory
7 Questions and Answers

Please also pray for his ministry. I will be seeing him next weekend in Laporte Mn Pray for all those that attend. God bless.
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Unread 11th October 2003, 02:04 AM
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Everyone here knows about Hovind. Most (Christians and non-Christians combined) think he is a charlatan and an extremely poor scientist. His "science" has been routinetly debunked here, yet people keep bringing him up.

Also, this appears to be blatant spam, and probably a violation of the forum rules.
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Yep, Hovind is a fraud. Anyone who has gone to high school could tell you that. Anyone who can use Google can tell you that.
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Also, this appears to be blatant spam, and probably a violation of the forum rules.
I'm not sure about that. They really watered-down the forum rules a while ago (they even took out the "no sarcasm" rule).

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Anyone who has gone to high school could tell you that.
Well, not anyone. I knew a few people who managed to graduate that would have loved some of his stuff.
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"Creationists are going to distort whatever arguments come up.... Archaeopteryx is half reptile and half bird any way you cut the deck, and so it is a Rosetta stone for evolution, whether it is related to dinosaurs or not. These creationists are confusing an argument about minor details of evolution with the indisputable fact of evolution."

-Dr. Alan Feduccia, in an interview with Discover magazine

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It never ceases to amaze me that so many people actually believe that fool.
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What's the difference between Christianity and Christian Science?

I do know that Christianity isn't a religion. It's a personal relationship with Christ, but is that the same with Christian Science?
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Originally Posted by XT4J
What's the difference between Christianity and Christian Science?
The term here is Creation Science, not Christian Science (Christian Science is a subset of Christianity that focuses on faith-healing, from what I understand). Creation Science, on the other hand, is an attempt at twisting modern science to fit with a literal Bible. Most creation science organizations (like Hovind's) believe, for example, that the world is only 6000 years old, that the global flood took place about 4500 years ago, and that all major "kinds" of animals were created at roughly the same time (as opposed to evolved over time).

Modern science, on the other hand, has refuted these notions (in fact, some of these ideas were rejected almost 200 years ago), because the evidence in the Earth does not support these ideas (the Earth is generally accepted to be 4.5 billion years old, for example). Yet, some Christians still try to claim that the evidence really confirms their ideas based on the literal Bible.
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Originally Posted by XT4J
What's the difference between Christianity and Christian Science?

I do know that Christianity isn't a religion. It's a personal relationship with Christ, but is that the same with Christian Science?
Careful, "Christian Science" has nothing to do with Kent Hovind or "creation science." Christian Science is a Christian cult that gets wrapped up in legal controversy over refusing to take their sick children to the doctor, preferring prayer.

"Creation science" is a sector of the Christian community that tries to persuade people that the Biblical account of creation is scientific. The leading creationists are Henry Morris, Duane Gish, Kent Hovind, and Hugh Ross.

And Christianity is a religion, even if it is also a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. Christianity has all the connotations and denotations of the word "religion." Get used to it.
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Please also pray for his ministry. I will be seeing him next weekend in Laporte Mn Pray for all those that attend. God bless.
call out and tell him I think it is ironic that in his seminar on evolutionist lies, there are dozens of lies from him. kthxbye.
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Heh, yeah, with as many lies that Hovind tells, Many people should probably pray for him to go to heaven.
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