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Old 29th September 2007, 07:52 PM
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You forget the rule of not insulting (flaming) the entire membership of a forum. This thread was an insult to the Word of Faith members, which point has been carefully ignored by you in every post you make about it. But that is why it was removed. Had such a thread been imposed upon members of some other forums, OBOB or SDA for instance, the howls of indignation would have been heard far and wide across this board.

Under the pretext of being a member of WoF, you have harassed and baited the members of this forum for a year or more and enough is enough. They have to be permitted the peace and harmony of their own forum.

You are not the victim here, the Word of Faith members are. My 'higher standards' makes me want to protect them. As admin, your 'higher standards' should have made you willing to leave them alone but no, you had no scruples about that and this messy, public showdown is the result, God forgive us.

As far as the organisation of the appeals system is concerned, I am not yet familiar with it for, as well you know, I have been an admin for barely two weeks. Tishri is off sick and I have yet no knowledge on how to proceed. My requests for assistance have so far gone unanswered.
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Old 29th September 2007, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by flaglady View Post
You forget the rule of not insulting (flaming) the entire membership of a forum. This thread was an insult to the Word of Faith members, which point has been carefully ignored by you in every post you make about it. But that is why it was removed. Had such a thread been imposed upon members of some other forums, OBOB or SDA for instance, the howls of indignation would have been heard far and wide across this board.

Under the pretext of being a member of WoF, you have harassed and baited the members of this forum for a year or more and enough is enough. They have to be permitted the peace and harmony of their own forum.

You are not the victim here, the Word of Faith members are. My 'higher standards' makes me want to protect them. As admin, your 'higher standards' should have made you willing to leave them alone but no, you had no scruples about that and this messy, public showdown is the result, God forgive us.

As far as the organisation of the appeals system is concerned, I am not yet familiar with it for, as well you know, I have been an admin for barely two weeks. Tishri is off sick and I have yet no knowledge on how to proceed. My requests for assistance have so far gone unanswered.
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Such a post was NOT an insult... not in anyway...

We had at least one very vocal poster insisting that point of theology was actively taught by Kenneth Copeland (a leading WoF teacher) and was a widely held point of WoF theology (in past threads he has made this statement).

Never having heard Copeland teach that myself... and after having the WoF mods determine that such theological statements were acceptable within constraints of the WoF wiki (which honestly surprised me)... I started a poll to see if it was just one poster, or if there were actually a number of posters within the forum who actually believed such.

Additionally, within that thread/poll there were answers of "yes", "no", and "either is acceptable"... which only proves that it was a legitimate question to ask, since various posters in the forum held to different views. That's exactly what a poll is for-- to determine how many hold to which view.

Now.. after the fact, you state that it was "insulting". At the time, not a single mod made such a statement... not a single mod suggested any kind of violation... rather, the only criticism of the thread was that it was "WoF unfriendly"... and action was taken.

The previous action was taken when I made a post that staff stated was "decidely Catholic theology" (even though it in no way contradicted any part of the WoF wiki AND I posted 3 different Protestant sources-- from vary different Protestant camps-- saying the same thing). Again... no violation even mentioned, other than that the mods didn't like my point of view.

When the staff doesn't find violations-- but takes disciplinary action anyway because of who the poster is... well... I think that speaks for itself...
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Your opinion .... not that of the WoF contingent
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I wonder if the Ecumenical Team forums might be a better place for the discussion of WoF forum policy. Can we keep this thread on the topic of appeals policy, please?

If someone would be so kind, perhaps the posts dealing only with WoF policy & not Appeals policy could be split to a more appropriate location?

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Split some posts from the Appeals Wiki and moved here to headquarters. flaglady suggested here
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Old 29th September 2007, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Father Rick View Post
What flaglady is saying here is this:
Why don't we let flaglady speak for herself?
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When staff saw that the deletion of the thread was being appealed... and knowing that the appeal would overturn the deletion
That's almost laughable, and is complete speculation, since no one heard the appeal.
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(since there was no rule violation in the first place to justify its deletion-- in fact, not even a suggestion of a rule violation by staff, just a determination it was "WoF unfriendly"
Again, something that is "WoF unfriendly" is, in itself, a violation of in the WoF forum.
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-- and its deletion was actually part of wiki intimidation by staff)
Wiki intimidation? Where do you come up with this stuff?

You asked a question which our staff found offensive to Word of Faith believers in an attempt to further your own personal agenda.
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....that staff went in, after the appeal was filed, and also closed the thread (without discussion, documentation, or any consensus being reached) in an attempt to circumvent what they knew the findings of the appeal would be.
Again, it's pure speculation on your part that your appeal would have been found in your favor, since no one actually heard the appeal. You won on a technicality, and so since you want to play the technicality card, the thread was closed AFTER the appeal was won, technically.
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Probinson, could you please move post #237 to the thread Meh made in the Ecumenical forum, so we can keep this thread on topic?

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already requested - we cannot take mod actions in here - only Support mods can do that

so now, I suppose these two posts had better go as well LOL!!
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