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26th September 2007, 06:32 PM
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Please,
Is there any reason why I should stay here. I have spent the last two days talking to people who won't seem to listen to reason at all. Even about the simplest things, people seem to hold on to their opinions in spite of reason, proof, or common sense.
So therefore I am beginning to wonder if there is any reason for me to stay.
Therefore if you think I might be able to help encourage some sensible debate around here let me know in this thread.
If you don't think I can add anything to the debate here, feel free to add your opinion in that aspect also.
A)There is a few ways I can gather data in this little test. The first way is by hearing no response whatsoever, in that case I will assume that noone has any great use for me here and I'll move on.
B)The second case is that I will hear some positive reasons why people think Id be useful for discussion here.
C)The third case is that I will negative feedback.
In cases a or c I will moving on, in case b I'll be staying.
Oh, and in case you think it would be nice to have another Christian around you can bash and disrespect that is not an acceptable use. The only way Im going to be useful here is through the mutual environment of respect.  |
26th September 2007, 06:45 PM
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No one can find reasons but you. Originally Posted by BigDug The only way Im going to be useful here is through the mutual environment of respect.
Respect must be earned. I doubt you will be useful. 
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26th September 2007, 06:52 PM
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Reps: 3,416 (power: 20) | | | I don't post here often, but I read every day... The issue I sense here is related to the fact that respect is not comprised only of lip-service. You have to show respect yourself before you can ever expect anyone to respect you.
I believe strongly that anyone is capable of having this kind of integrity. So, no, I don't think anyone should leave, as long as they plan on learning, expressing humility, being accountable for what they say, and accepting that they may be wrong.
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26th September 2007, 06:53 PM
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Reps: 474 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Gracchus No one can find reasons but you.
Well thats the point, Ive run out of reasons. Respect must be earned. I doubt you will be useful.
Where I come from, everyone deserves respect.Good Im glad Ive got your input.
anyone else? |
26th September 2007, 06:57 PM
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Reps: 474 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by L'Anatra I don't post here often, but I read every day... The issue I sense here is related to the fact that respect is not comprised only of lip-service. You have to show respect yourself before you can ever expect anyone to respect you.
I believe strongly that anyone is capable of having this kind of integrity. So, no, I don't think anyone should leave, as long as they plan on learning, expressing humility, being accountable for what they say, and accepting that they may be wrong.
Well your a Christian and you dont come here often so Im not going to use that as a strong motivation. If I thought I could help Christains here by staying I would.
Thanks and God bless
The problem is, some people cant admit that their opinions are not fact, and it looks like its the majority of evolutionists here. Of course we Christians admit that God is not proved by science, but evolutionists are not intellectually honest....unless Im wrong, maybe some evolutionist can prove it to me. |
26th September 2007, 06:59 PM
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26th September 2007, 07:03 PM
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Reps: 33,621 (power: 54) | | Originally Posted by BigDug The problem is, some people cant admit that their opinions are not fact, and it looks like its the majority of evolutionists here. Of course we Christians admit that God is not proved by science, but evolutionists are not intellectually honest....unless Im wrong, maybe some evolutionist can prove it to me.
It is intellectually dishonest to suggest that Christian and evolutionist are two separate things.
A great many Christian scientists (including myself) accept evolution. I think that this false dilemma that you are putting forward might be part of the problem you seem to have with the board.
While you are calling out the intellectual dishonesty of others, you might want to check yours first.
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26th September 2007, 07:06 PM
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Reps: 71,442,016,436 (power: 71,442,022) | | | I'm a Christian and no one has been rude to me. However, I believe in evolution..but I don't think I've stressed that. Maybe I haven't been around long enough.
I do hate remarks like " get your data in order" but that is why I come here, so I blow it off. |
26th September 2007, 07:06 PM
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Reps: 71,280,996,117 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by BigDug Please,
Is there any reason why I should stay here. I have spent the last two days talking to people who won't seem to listen to reason at all. Even about the simplest things, people seem to hold on to their opinions in spite of reason, proof, or common sense.
So therefore I am beginning to wonder if there is any reason for me to stay.
Therefore if you think I might be able to help encourage some sensible debate around here let me know in this thread.
If you don't think I can add anything to the debate here, feel free to add your opinion in that aspect also.
A)There is a few ways I can gather data in this little test. The first way is by hearing no response whatsoever, in that case I will assume that noone has any great use for me here and I'll move on.
B)The second case is that I will hear some positive reasons why people think Id be useful for discussion here.
C)The third case is that I will negative feedback.
In cases a or c I will moving on, in case b I'll be staying.
Oh, and in case you think it would be nice to have another Christian around you can bash and disrespect that is not an acceptable use. The only way Im going to be useful here is through the mutual environment of respect.
In the UK a person like you would be called:
A big girls blouse.
so why don't you go and run yourself up a nice little frock, and stop acting like a tart. |
26th September 2007, 07:07 PM
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Reps: 474 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by TheOutsider I don't think that you should leave permanently but a few days of cooling off may make you feel better. It's important to not take this stuff too seriously. Don't let anonymous people on the internet ruin your day.
Noone is anonymous, I have enough respect for people on the internet to consider each person as an individual. I am going to take your answer as a no, judging by the fact that you didnt answer my question. Had you thought my question was useful, you would have answered it. | | |
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