Please, consider the facts before making such accusations like "Abortion isn't murder".
I have. It isn't.
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To answer the OP I wouldn't give that dish a second thought as I ran out the door with the child.
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This is a liberal question. And who are you to say I cannot take both? LOL. Besides, this is very poorly constructed. Everyone would save the baby, most likely, because we know that it is a baby. We probably wouldn't have a clue as to what was in the petri dish, or even if we recognized them as embryos, we would not know whether they were fertilized or not. We would assume they are unfertilized, making them in effect not embryos but eggs, since they were all left out like that in the first place.
That's a lot of moaning and complaining. I think the OP was pretty clear, you knew that it was a choice between fertilized embryos and an infant.
Shall I take it that you took the infant?
How many embryos would you need before you would chose their "lives" over the life of an infant?
1. The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice.
2. kill intentionally and with premeditation
Since the embryo is alive inside the mother, it can be killed. And those doing abortions have "premeditated" the whole procedure. So technically, it can be said to be "murder".
Just like eating meat is murder, huh?
If you have to twist the term that strongly to make your case, it doesn't say much about your position.
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To answer the OP, I would try to save both the Petri Dish and the Infant. If that wasn't possible, I would, of course, save the infant. Viable life before potential life.
Before any potential life, no matter how numerous?
Are you saying that you agree that embryos are just "potential" life but not actual life?
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Before any potential life, no matter how numerous?
Are you saying that you agree that embryos are just "potential" life but not actual life?
I should have been more clear. Human embryos are, more definitely alive, as are the sex cells that formed them. But they can only keep living in specific environments, mainly the uterus. These (hypothetical) embryos in questions are not in the womb, and so aren't going to be growing into infants anytime soon. Thus, I would consider them to be "potential" human lives.
My opinion on this (save both infant and embryos if possible, just infant if not) would not be changed if it were one embryo or one thousand or one billion. In all cases, the born, breathing infant comes first, if I cannot save both it and the embryos.
Likewise I would run back into a burning building to save an infant, but not a container of living human embryos.
I'd kick over the petri dish as I ran out the door with the child.
That way no one wasted time considering the petri dish when they could be looking for other infants.
Likewise I would run back into a burning building to save an infant, but not a container of living human embryos.
Fair enough, thanks.
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You are visiting a fertility clinic when an intense fire breaks out. You must flee the building immediately or be killed. In the room with you is a single newborn infant and a dish containing 40 fertilized embryos. You can save one or the other, but not both.
Which do you save?
Both. There's no reason why I can't save both unless the baby weighs sixty pounds or the dish is the size of a table.
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Both. There's no reason why I can't save both unless the baby weighs sixty pounds or the dish is the size of a table.
The reason why you can't save both is that the nature of this thought experiment is that you have to pick one.
Plus, I believe for the embryos to not be dead, they would have to be in some bulky freezer of some sort, at least that is what television has taught me. *wink* Thus it might be impossible to carry both at once.
If you could only carry one, which would you go for?
Both. There's no reason why I can't save both unless the baby weighs sixty pounds or the dish is the size of a table.
Now that you've got it outside how do you keep them alive? Just keep running to the nearest fertility clinic. Oh, wait, you're holding a crying infant. Oh dear, oh dear.
Seriously... why do you lie about things like this?
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