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Unread 7th October 2003, 11:11 AM
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Stoning of Stephen

Can someone help me prove that Stephen was stoned in 34 A.D.?
I need some historical evidence of this for a Bible study I am doing.
Know of any good reference material?
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What is proof? No one can agree on the death of the Savior so that seems to be in conflict with this proof of a specific date of 34 AD that you want.

Stephan was sentanced and stoned shortly after the resurection and Pentecost. Before Paul's conversion. But the proof of the year is tricky as the calendars differ on this in many camps.

Picking that date can mean he was stoned 1 year after Yeshua's crucifixion or 3-4, depending on when you set the crucifixion date. I prefer 30AD.

You might want to check out the works of Josephus to get a rough date from an outside the Bible resource.
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I agree with Sonworshipper that don't know a precise year. We know it was around the AD 30's.
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Stephen may have never existed, if so, his death is probably a revision of James the brother of Jesus's death.

As Hans-Joachim Schoeps had already surmised, the stoning of Stephen has in precisely the same way supplanted the stoning of James (actually a conflation of James' ultimate stoning at the command of Ananus and an earlier assault by Saul on the temple steps preserved as a separate incident in the Recognitions). The name Stephen has been borrowed from a Roman official beaten by Jewish insurgents whom Josephus depicts ambushing him outside the city walls. Why this name? Because of a pun: Stephen means "crown" and was suggested both by the "crown" of long hair worn by the Nazirite (which James was, according to early church writers) and by the crown of martyrdom. To Stephen has been transferred James' declaration of the Son of Man at the right hand of God in heaven, as well as James' "Christlike" prayer for his persecutors. (Eisenman might have noted, too, that the martyr's original identity as James the Just is signaled by Acts 7:52, "the Just, whose betrayers and murderers you have now become"!)

We read that a young man named Saul was playing coat checker for the executioners of Stephen and, his taste for blood whetted, immediately began to foment persecution in Jerusalem and Damascus. This has been drawn, again, from the lore of James as well as Josephus. The clothing motif was suggested by the final blow to James' head with a fuller's club, while just after his own account of James' death, Josephus tells of the rioting started by a Herodian named Saulus in Jerusalem! http://www.depts.drew.edu/jhc/rpeisman.html
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Try visiting the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem where the Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) ascended to heaven. :rolleyes:
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An interesting possibility has been advanced that the stoning of Stephen and the stoning of James, the brother of Jesus are actually the same event. In Acts the stoning of Stephen follows a riot that is started by a man named Saul (Saulos). In Antiquities, Josephus describes the stoning of James following a riot started by Saulus. The dates, of course don't match, the stoning of Stephen taking place in the late thirties to early forties and the stoning of James taking place in the sixties, but it wouldn't be so unbelievable that the dates could have been superimposed with one another by 20 years when one considers that the authors were both recounting events in the past and that the earliest manuscripts of either piece we have today was penned hundreds of years after the original.
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The date will not be proven. Exactly right, without the date of the crucifixion, it would be impossible to derive the date of the stoning.
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Been there. Doubt it happened.
Doubt Stephen existed.
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