I'm a member of the Creation Seventh Day Adventist Church. The last I heard of Eugene's article (the one you cited), he was trying to claim we only had three members or something of the sort. That was about the time he was banned from Wikipedia for continued malicious editing of our entry...
I would suggest you look for more credible resources than people's antagonists for your views. Otherwise you'll end up thinking the Apostles were drunk on new wine.
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Wow, old post.
I used to talk to David Aguilar, the chief "apologist" of the CSDAs. I asked several times for the church's numbers, and I never got a clear answer. I would estimate there are 10-15 members at most (though to be honest, even that seems too high). It seems bizarre that a handful of individuals could consider themselves God's one true church.
Though I wasn't able to recognize it then, there are key beliefs in this group that challenge basic Christian orthodoxy. The most alarming is the belief that the Holy Spirit is not a Person and that the Trinity is unbiblical. There are other radical departures from "vanilla" Adventism that are interesting to note. Christians can't sin, New Moons should be observed, and the Mark of the Beast is not the Sunday Sabbath.
When I was an Adventist I thought some of the things they taught were compelling, but now the group seems like a curious little anomaly. Maybe worth noting, but that's it. No offense.
__________________ When Jesus saw his mother there, and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to his mother, "Dear woman, here is your son," and to the disciple, "Here is your mother" (John 19:26-27). I am not ashamed of my mother!
Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen.
It is interesting that such an "insignificant group" of Christians is so often spoken of (viz., CSDAs). If it were not for our Savior's shed blood, we would have no business even being alive, much less, being talked about.
I am also amazed at the minds of professors of Christianity in these days. They either want to know "how many members" you have OR they are asking how you finance your work. These, to me, are revealing characteristics. The "love of the world" is "hostility against God."
Noah was the "Apostle" of the only true church in his day, and the whole world considered him "crazy" because he spoke contrary to the teachings of the "great men of the earth." "You know," they would say, "it can not possibly rain, as this alarmist claims!" And, ONLY eight members (world-wide) joined his boat.
Now, I am not really being sarcastic, though I may sound a little that way. I am sorry that you (in general) do not love me, for when you do not love me, you demonstrate your quality of love for my Father. If you loved my Father, surely you would love me and hear me.
I once told someone that I love Lucifer. Oh, he immediately categorized me as a Satanist. Did you know that the Father and His Son still love Lucifer? That may be as "new light" for you, but it only takes knowing those Two (see John 17:3) in order to have eternal life. When you know Them, you will love all whom They love. It is truly unfortunate that Lucifer chose not to embrace the love of my Father.
I do not condemn you who talk about me and my brethren. However, my teachings (the words of my Elder Brother) will judge you in that day when all must appear before the "judgment seat of Christ."
You can know that I love you, because you are loved by my Father and His Son. I shall never do despite unto you. May you receive YAHWEH's best, as I remain speaking contrary to the teachings of "the earth's great men."
If you wish to be my friend, then search for my email address online and write to me with a heart of love. My arms are open to all who love and obey my Father and His Son.
Christian Regards,
Walter McGill (a/k/a Pastor "Chick")
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Reason: Add some wording.
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Originally Posted by crmin
If you wish to be my friend, then search for my email address online and write to me with a heart of love. My arms are open to all who love and obey my Father and His Son.
Christian Regards,
Walter McGill (a/k/a Pastor "Chick")
I do not recognize your binitarian god. I am baptized in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. My God is Blessed Trinity.
__________________ When Jesus saw his mother there, and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to his mother, "Dear woman, here is your son," and to the disciple, "Here is your mother" (John 19:26-27). I am not ashamed of my mother!
Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen.
It is interesting that such an "insignificant group" of Christians is so often spoken of (viz., CSDAs). If it were not for our Savior's shed blood, we would have no business even being alive, much less, being talked about.
I am also amazed at the minds of professors of Christianity in these days. They either want to know "how many members" you have OR they are asking how you finance your work. These, to me, are revealing characteristics. The "love of the world" is "hostility against God."
Noah was the "Apostle" of the only true church in his day, and the whole world considered him "crazy" because he spoke contrary to the teachings of the "great men of the earth." "You know," they would say, "it can not possibly rain, as this alarmist claims!" And, ONLY eight members (world-wide) joined his boat.
Now, I am not really being sarcastic, though I may sound a little that way. I am sorry that you (in general) do not love me, for when you do not love me, you demonstrate your quality of love for my Father. If you loved my Father, surely you would love me and hear me.
I once told someone that I love Lucifer. Oh, he immediately categorized me as a Satanist. Did you know that the Father and His Son still love Lucifer? That may be as "new light" for you, but it only takes knowing those Two (see John 17:3) in order to have eternal life. When you know Them, you will love all whom They love. It is truly unfortunate that Lucifer chose not to embrace the love of my Father.
I do not condemn you who talk about me and my brethren. However, my teachings (the words of my Elder Brother) will judge you in that day when all must appear before the "judgment seat of Christ."
You can know that I love you, because you are loved by my Father and His Son. I shall never do despite unto you. May you receive YAHWEH's best, as I remain speaking contrary to the teachings of "the earth's great men."
If you wish to be my friend, then search for my email address online and write to me with a heart of love. My arms are open to all who love and obey my Father and His Son.
Christian Regards,
Walter McGill (a/k/a Pastor "Chick")
I for one welcome you Walter. I hope that we can grow together in His Church.
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