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20th September 2007, 04:53 PM
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20th September 2007, 05:31 PM
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Reps: 2,505,624 (power: 2,516) | | Originally Posted by SallyNow  Some concerns about the study:
-Small sampling size
-5% loss of interviews
-A drop-out rate of around 25%
-Short follow-up
-Evidence of non-random sampling
-Little mention of peer review
All of these are serious concerns that one must consider before calling the study
More like, "  Wow, this study presents some interesting information but now it must be repeated in a wider-scale, more carefully conducted, randomly-sampled study. "
Even when somebody converts, no gay-affirmer can believe it. It's like -- oh well they must have been bisexual anyway.
We have a convert right here on CF. His name is DMagoh.
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20th September 2007, 06:45 PM
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Also, if you go to the main page of that link, one of the study authors posted a reply to the criticisms.
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20th September 2007, 08:03 PM
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Reps: 483,422,593 (power: 483,436) | | Originally Posted by MercyBurst Even when somebody converts, no gay-affirmer can believe it. It's like -- oh well they must have been bisexual anyway.
We have a convert right here on CF. His name is DMagoh.
I was bringing up valid points regarding the methods of the study.
Many outcomes are shown on small-scale, non-random sampling studies that do not hold true for the population. That is why the initial findings must be tested on a wider scale.
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20th September 2007, 10:32 PM
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Reps: 47,367 (power: 56) | | Originally Posted by MercyBurst Even when somebody converts, no gay-affirmer can believe it. It's like -- oh well they must have been bisexual anyway.
We have a convert right here on CF. His name is DMagoh.
One convert doesn't erase the multitude of problems with this study. |
20th September 2007, 11:01 PM
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Reps: 2,505,624 (power: 2,516) | | Originally Posted by sister_maynard One convert doesn't erase the multitude of problems with this study.
So do you think orientation is totally immutable (whatever that means)?
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20th September 2007, 11:08 PM
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Reps: 47,367 (power: 56) | | Originally Posted by MercyBurst So do you think orientation is totally immutable (whatever that means)?
I'm undecided pending further evidence- new studies are coming out all the time. I was just pointing out that this study suggests greater and easier success than is likely because of its scientific flaws. Studies are subjected to rigorous peer reviews and other procedures for a reason, and this one hasn't. That merits closer examination.
Some people may be able to change their orientation with effort- I don't know. But blindly trusting this study would be foolish. |
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