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It is interesting to see fascists projecting fascism on the belief they hate. It is nothing new. Communists have always deluded their people into believing Christianity to be a seditious ideology. Atheists have labeled themselves free-thinkers while they mass murdered their citizens through communist governments. Over 100, 000, 000 citizens spanning from Cambodia, to China, to the former Soviet Union, were butchered by Left leaning dictators in the twentieth century alone (more deaths than the sum total of all recorded wars in history combined), who hated individual liberty, genuine free thought, and Christianity the womb from which they sprang. Today, left wing snipes caricature Christians and Christianity as oppressive, yawnnnn. Christians are of course bigots, homophobes, anti-female, killers of the enivornment, punishers of criminals, anti-liberty, fascists, ...the same dialectical lie, rehashed throughout every category of life. Marx would be sooo proud. These are typical projections spawned in the soul of those who drink the communist koolaid without criticism. Yes they are communists or liberal socialists, not far off. Just watch their coming hysteria, if you don't believe me. If you have read the former posts, many of them, you would think that there is no absolute truth, except of course for the accusers of Xny. You see, their truth, is absolute, yet strangely they impugn the notion that absolutes exist. Yet if absolutes exist, fascists spawn out of them, like right-wing Christians, except of course their own absolutism, fanaticism, their own fascism. The hypocrisy, projectionism, and deceit are plainly visible.
They are playing games here, because their lives are essentially without meaning, their worlds miserable, and their natures evil. They need therefore to make the rest of us miserable. That is their legacy, their mission, the legacy they will stand before Christ with. "We accused your people of tyranny in order to injure them, we came to their sites in order to destroy their doctrine, your doctrine, we lived our lives in antagonism toward you and your people. What sin have we committed?" They need to hear that God's future world will be a monarchy, and they will be cast into hell, lest they repent of their sad and evil lives, and turn to the living Christ, like the rest of us who are saved. Of course the mention of hell is a grevious violation of free thought, you see, to them. For it reveals that our current actions, deeds, and thoughts, have consequences in the afterlife, and that must be expunged, villified, and beat down at all costs before somebody gets convicted. It is against my freedom to do evil.
Oh, and by the way, Christianity in the West is cheifly responsible for the promotion of self-government and individual liberty. Yes, that is why the liberals, socialists, communists, and Islam hate us. Because they want to control the economies of the world, the vocational aspirations of its citizens, and their thoughts; but, gosh darnit those bloody Americans keep getting in the way. Those Americans, who cherish individual liberty, grounded in the doctrines of the dignity of man, found in the Old and New Testaments. Those Protestants who have promoted the work ethic that has revolutionized the west, and indited the socialists, commies, and Islamo fascists. Those Protestants who resisted tyrannical forms of Christianity in Rome, and promoted an individualism which birthed a myriad of protestant views which led to a diversity of Chrurches. Alas we discover, it is the communism and socialism of Europe that makes men sheep, easily led to the trofts of government, to redistributiuon schemes bent on destroying self-government, who prop up criminal governments to loot the citizenry, and trust in them.
They will continue to spew their own tyranny on us and parade it before us all daily, until God brings history to its final day, and thus will end their foolsparade, and commence the revelation of their hate before the whole moral universe. Sadly.
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There is a difference between communism and a dictatorship. In true communism, there is no central government, and no one leader. There also wouldn't be a need to kill citizens.

Those countries were dictatorships, not communist.
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I am neither, communist, nor fascist, nor Islamic. I am not an atheist, or a socialist, and I am most certainly not a relativist.

Yet I can see that your post is the product of the mind of a hateful, prejudiced, small minded person who really doesn't know the meaning of the phrase "absolute truth".

So maybe it's not the fault of all those other people that you're a Bigot.
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There are a couple glaring problems.

"Atheists have labeled themselves free-thinkers while they mass murdered their citizens through communist governments."

First problem.
While many communist governments tried to be atheists.
Few Free Atheists try to be like the communist governments.

Atheism is also a very large category. All atheism means is the lack of or no belief in god or gods. Nothing more, Nothing less. It may interest you that Buddhists can be atheists, and there have been many buddhists killed by the oppressive communist governments.

Thus you have incorrectly labelled most, if not all, atheists oppressive communists, when any bit of study would prove this untrue, especially in the US.

"Today, left wing snipes caricature Christians and Christianity as oppressive... ...Marx would be sooo proud."

Second Problem.

You incorrectly connect Communism with the Left. I would only assume this was an attempt to connect them to the bahaviors of oppressive communism.


"Over 100, 000, 000 citizens spanning from Cambodia, to China, to the former Soviet Union, were butchered by Left leaning dictators in the twentieth century alone (more deaths than the sum total of all recorded wars in history combined), who hated individual liberty, genuine free thought, and Christianity the womb from which they sprang."

Ahah, here you have correctly labeled the problem, unfortunatly you quickly stray from it.

Did this dictators (something that is not part of true communism) do this because of their atheism beliefs? Did they do it because of their communist beliefs, did they do it because of their alignment with the left side? Nope, they did it because they were powerhungry, they hated individual liberty and anything that seperated them from their dirrect power. Since they did not choose christianity as their leash on their people, as others have done in the past, they forbid it, as it could be dangerous, just like any other religion that did not put them in control.


As far as the rest. I feel sorry that you have this hate inside you, I would recomend examining yourself before you spew it out against others. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. In otherwords, examine yourself before you blame others.


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Projection indeed.

How do you think liberals themselves feel about the villification we receive from the right wing?
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Thank you , Battered Angel, for giving the devil his due. Athiests and free-thinkers are never short on words to describe the horrors that Christianity has unleashed upon the world, and yet ithe speck in the Chistian's eye can't compare to the log in their own. The wars of the twentieth century have not been so much one of principalities, but have been fought over the ideologies.
Athiests such as Marx who, following the ideas of Hegel that the individual is of little consequence when compared to the needs of the all-encompassing state, have created states where the butchery of the 100 million souls is of no concern. On the other side of the spectrum lies fascism. Animated by the pitiless athiesm of Nietchze's anti-Christian rantings, the compassionless "blond lion" sprang to life, leaving a swath of destruction that all but destroyed Europe's position of global moral leadership.
The meaningless, joylessly pessimistic worldviews of athiests such as Schopenhauer, Camus, Satre and their followers have left the Western World in such a state that which many of hardly find it worthwhile to procreate.
If Battered Angel speaks against such an abomination of our world with contempt and hatred, this in no way blashphemes Christ's gospel of love. To stand up for the Truth, we must also make a stand against the Lie. Does anybody dispute that communist countries have buthcered 100 million? Compare the plight of North Korea to South Korea, or the the former East Germany to the prosperity of West Germany. Apparently, the butchery doesn't even account for the needless suffering that athiest Communism has inflicted on the rest of its population.
Thank you, Battered Angel, for challenging us with a very worthwhile read. Now excuse me while I leave and read you other post.


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It is interesting to see fascists projecting fascism on the belief they hate. It is nothing new. Communists have always deluded their people into believing Christianity to be a seditious ideology. Atheists have labeled themselves free-thinkers while they mass murdered their citizens through communist governments. Over 100, 000, 000 citizens spanning from Cambodia, to China, to the former Soviet Union, were butchered by Left leaning dictators in the twentieth century alone (more deaths than the sum total of all recorded wars in history combined), who hated individual liberty, genuine free thought, and Christianity the womb from which they sprang. Today, left wing snipes caricature Christians and Christianity as oppressive, yawnnnn. Christians are of course bigots, homophobes, anti-female, killers of the enivornment, punishers of criminals, anti-liberty, fascists, ...the same dialectical lie, rehashed throughout every category of life. Marx would be sooo proud. These are typical projections spawned in the soul of those who drink the communist koolaid without criticism. Yes they are communists or liberal socialists, not far off. Just watch their coming hysteria, if you don't believe me. If you have read the former posts, many of them, you would think that there is no absolute truth, except of course for the accusers of Xny. You see, their truth, is absolute, yet strangely they impugn the notion that absolutes exist. Yet if absolutes exist, fascists spawn out of them, like right-wing Christians, except of course their own absolutism, fanaticism, their own fascism. The hypocrisy, projectionism, and deceit are plainly visible.
They are playing games here, because their lives are essentially without meaning, their worlds miserable, and their natures evil. They need therefore to make the rest of us miserable. That is their legacy, their mission, the legacy they will stand before Christ with. "We accused your people of tyranny in order to injure them, we came to their sites in order to destroy their doctrine, your doctrine, we lived our lives in antagonism toward you and your people. What sin have we committed?" They need to hear that God's future world will be a monarchy, and they will be cast into hell, lest they repent of their sad and evil lives, and turn to the living Christ, like the rest of us who are saved. Of course the mention of hell is a grevious violation of free thought, you see, to them. For it reveals that our current actions, deeds, and thoughts, have consequences in the afterlife, and that must be expunged, villified, and beat down at all costs before somebody gets convicted. It is against my freedom to do evil.
Oh, and by the way, Christianity in the West is cheifly responsible for the promotion of self-government and individual liberty. Yes, that is why the liberals, socialists, communists, and Islam hate us. Because they want to control the economies of the world, the vocational aspirations of its citizens, and their thoughts; but, gosh darnit those bloody Americans keep getting in the way. Those Americans, who cherish individual liberty, grounded in the doctrines of the dignity of man, found in the Old and New Testaments. Those Protestants who have promoted the work ethic that has revolutionized the west, and indited the socialists, commies, and Islamo fascists. Those Protestants who resisted tyrannical forms of Christianity in Rome, and promoted an individualism which birthed a myriad of protestant views which led to a diversity of Chrurches. Alas we discover, it is the communism and socialism of Europe that makes men sheep, easily led to the trofts of government, to redistributiuon schemes bent on destroying self-government, who prop up criminal governments to loot the citizenry, and trust in them.
They will continue to spew their own tyranny on us and parade it before us all daily, until God brings history to its final day, and thus will end their foolsparade, and commence the revelation of their hate before the whole moral universe. Sadly.

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They will continue to spew their own tyranny on us and parade it before us all daily, until God brings history to its final day, and thus will end their foolsparade, and commence the revelation of their hate before the whole moral universe. Sadly.
Isn't claiming to know the future heresy?
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Thank you , Battered Angel, for giving the devil his due. Athiests and free-thinkers are never short on words to describe the horrors that Christianity has unleashed upon the world, and yet the speck in the Chistian's eye can't compare to the log in their own.
The log in whose eye? It was people attempting to implement communist ideology that were to blame for those horrors, not atheism as such.

This is like blaming Christianity on the horrors caused by Islam because both religions are monotheistic.
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solomon, your version of history is incorrect. maybe you can take a night class or something. Actually your ideology is more consistent with fascism than that of those names you mentioned. I would suggest that you read more about Camus, Satre, Marx, Nietzsche, etc.. you seem to know little of all. Your statement makes it hard for me to take you seriously, are you just another ranting fanatic?

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Herewith I am returning to you the three issues of your correspondence sheet, thanking you for your confidence which you permitted me to cast a glance at the muddle of principles that lie at the heart of this strange movement. Yet I ask in the future not to provide me with these [anti-Semitic] mailings: I fear, in the end, for my patience. Believe me: this abominable "wanting to have a say" of noisy dilettantes about the value of people and races, this subjection to "authorities" who are utterly rejected with cold contempt by every sensible mind (e.g., E. Dühring, R. Wagner, Ebrard, Wahrmund, P. de Lagarde—who among these in questions of morality and history is the most unqualified, the most unjust?), these constant, absurd falsifications and rationalizations of vague concepts "germanic," "semitic," "aryan," "christian," "German"—all of that could in the long run cause me to lose my temper and bring me out of the ironic benevolence with which I have hitherto observed the virtuous velleities and pharisaisms of modern Germans.

— And finally, how do you think I feel when the name Zarathustra is mouthed by anti-Semites? ...

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What's your point? Atheism simply means a lack of belief in a god.

There have been atheist, christian, buddhist, muslim, hindu, roman, norse, etc... psychotic leaders thruout history. Atheists, christians, buddhists, etc have all been persecuted.

You're also using the atheist equivilent of the IRA and using that to describe all atheists and liberals, which is simply untrue. I assure you, when I take over the world you will be able to practice whatever religion you wish in your prison cell.
 


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