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Russian soldier has throat cut for not converting to Islam

http://modernwar.suite101.com/article.cfm/evgeniy_rodionov_soldier_martyr

Evgeniy Rodionov Soldier Martyr
The 19 year old New Russian Orthodox Saint of Chechnya

Chechen field commander Rusland Haihoroev (also spelled Khaikhoroyev in some sources) slit the throat of the soldier and later beheaded him on May 23, 1996 (his 19th birthday) near the settlement of Bamut. His body, along with four other Russian prisoners were placed in a bomb crater outside the village of Alexeevskaya and covered up with lime and dirt. Haihoroev stated later in an interview that he only killed Rodionov after the soldier denied conversion to Islam and refused to give up his orthodox cross.
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I would've converted on thew spot. It's not as if appeasing a madman to save your life can be held against anyone.

Chechnya is a crazy place though, freaky things happen there
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And? He was a combatant in a warzone, and on top of that, a soldier of an invading army. He should not have even been able to expect a chance to save himself by converting.
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Seems like he was a prisoner, if it was on the war zone it would have been fine, but I always through that nowadays we do not execute prisoners?
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A prisoner of war is someone who tries to kill you, fails, and then goes on demanding that you don't kill him.
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I'm quite opposed to the idea of killing prisoners, I mean you can out them to work building stuff for you, you could trade them for your soldiers the enemy has taken prisoner, a little imagination and they can serve a purpose.....

At the point at which they're unarmed I think its not moral to kill them, if they're in the process of doing something dangerous to you, no problem, but not unarmed people......
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Fatuwwa you are insane. No one should ever die, even if they are the oppressors.

Anyways but the Bible says that those who die for Jesus will be blessed He was a martyr for Christ.
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Taking or not takng prisoners is sometimes a matter of military expediency. For partisans, who are dependent on mobility and seldom have fixed bases of operations, dragging along prisoners is not very realistic.

Or, imagine a group being on a very particular infiltration mission, getting into a fight and enemies surrendering. They can't take the prisoners along without botching the mission, and taking them back to base would abort the mission. What's there to do, then, other than shoot them?
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A prisoner of war is someone who tries to kill you, fails, and then goes on demanding that you don't kill him.
Yes, we would all be better off without this horrible Geneva convention.
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Taking or not takng prisoners is sometimes a matter of military expediency. For partisans, who are dependent on mobility and seldom have fixed bases of operations, dragging along prisoners is not very realistic.

Or, imagine a group being on a very particular infiltration mission, getting into a fight and enemies surrendering. They can't take the prisoners along without botching the mission, and taking them back to base would abort the mission. What's there to do, then, other than shoot them?
He wasn't killed for military reasons but for refusing to convert to Islam.

Religion aside, I am not surprised about anything coming from Chechnya. There has been too much suffering and too many atrocities committed by both sides.
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