God loves all, but not Pagans, Wiccans, Gays and Followers of other religons....

Even though bashing is not right, the difference between the sin of lying or stealing, and any of these above, is acting independently vs. acting as a group with lobbies.

The participants are not just sneaking something on the sly, but asking for legislation. So the offensive is not against people, but how these changes will impact society.

There is also resistance that you might not see. The Christians are not the only ones being vocal-- they also absorb plenty of insults. So any human, on the defensive like that, is bound to slip out with some irritable comments.

Much of the opposition from Christians admittedly goes overboard, and people get sloppy with their statements -- especially leaders trying to rouse people into action. (That's another issue -- preachers swaying people over political agendas.... I'm getting Medieval flashbacks.)
Abrasive people who always stand out, no matter what group. Compare it to lint on a shirt -- you see the lint before you stop and admire the shirt.

Another thing you're seeing though, is people who have worked many years to learn about their faith and life, but have no degree to show for it. They volunteer their time to help others, start programs to keep youth off the streets, who donated money for many worthy causes, gave up good jobs to start orphanages in AIDS-oppressed regions --- then get such little respect for what they have given to society.

Look at what happens on the forum -- the first question a newcomer asks of Christians is always an attack on their faith.

And then there are just people who like to be right. Especially when they have invested so much time in learning and analyzing what they believe to be true.

Everyone is jumpy. Everyone needs a good pat on the back.

God loves everyone but he hates what they do.

For example, God loves smokers but he hates smoking. God loves homosexuals but he hates homosexuality.
God loves drinkers but he hates drinking.
God loves the sinner but he hates the sin.

God does love all - God IS Love. Its not that God is about love - He IS Love. What people need to remember is that God is also Holy. He doesn't like deeds that are evil and unholy but loves the person. He wishes all would turn and repent from their sins.

The opposite is true. God so loved the WORLD (that means every sinner in it), that he gave his only begotten son to die for them.

The problem is not that God doesn't love the homosexual, murderer etc., the problem is that it is THEY who don't love God. They reject him and in so doing they reject being saved.

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Originally Posted by TheKingOfImmortality

I dont understand how some people can say God is loving and kind and yet at the same time use the Bible to bash Gays, People of other religons, Pagans, Wiccans ect. Are any these really that bad. I know non-christians who I like more then a few Christians. So why the grudge against these people?

All the people you mentioned rub their sins, abominations, witchery, sorrceries and wrong ways in the face of God, they rejecy God's plan and way of salvation. Although some Christians do bash others, the Bible condemns all of those people you mentioned.

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God loves the sinner, but he doesn't love the sin.

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In Moses' laws, God instructed people not to have other gods because they had just come out of living among Egyptians for generations. (Apologies to Egyptians.) They were already mixing religions.

God pulled millions of people out of a country that held a strong grasp on them, and allowed them to walk right out. There was nothing else they could attribute that release from, but God.

As soon as Moses turned his back, the people collected valuable gold items from each other in order to melt up an idol. The idol sapped the posessions of the people. What could have been sold for bread was turned into a contrived religious symbol, of no worth to anyone.

Lost in the desert, and they give up their bartering power.

It reminds me of some of my spending decisions when I was in elementary school. I just had to buy a certain salt and pepper shaker set, and I didn't know why. I used up my allowance hoarding a salt and pepper collection. And a stamp collection. And a shell collection. And a sake set collection (without the sake).

These things took up space, money, time, added guilt, and became cumbersome to me. I am not against kids having collections -- it's just an analogy.

Believing in other gods, from the standpoint of Christianity, is not just about sin or religiosity. It covers fickleness, lack of sensibility, using resources unwisely, lack of appreciation for what God has done for us.... it goes on.

Back in the days of Moses, it also included child sacrifice and temple prostitution.

So today, we quote the verses and sound right because we made a choice that was in line with what God asked of us. But we are fickle in our own ways... ungrateful... lean on other sources besides the One who really can help us. We are no different today.

you sure hate can exist within a perfect being?

The definition of perfect seems to change everyday though I suppose.

God is Love

The Christian answer is that God hates the sin, but loves the sinner. This would apply to Christians too; it's fair. The only different is that by accepting Christ, God is able to overlook their sins.

The more unbiased answer is that I don't know what God loves or does not love. He supposedly loves everyone, and yet has directly killed more people than anyone.

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If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone him to death, because he tried to turn you away from the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again.
-Deuteronomy 13:6-11