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2nd October 2003, 08:47 PM
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Reps: 19,183,710,574,649,584 (power: 19,183,710,574,664) | | Originally Posted by drfeelgood [/indent]E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin (Moscow: Foreign Languages Publishing house, 1940), pp. 8-12
You are quoting an alleged recollection of someone who supposedly knew Stalin. I am quoting two sources that agree as to what Stalin actually published. I am sure I can find more. This whole Lysenko story is very well known in the history science. It may not be as well known as the fact that earth goes around the sun and not the sun around the earth but it is very well known and one of your sites had that wrong as well.
Of coure what Stalin may or may not have believed is also totally irrelevant to the validity of evolutionary theory.
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Reps: 26,771 (power: 42) | | Originally Posted by Frumious Bandersnatch Of coure what Stalin may or may not have believed is also totally irrelevant to the validity of evolutionary theory.
Pretty much.. No sense arguing this. I quit.. lol
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3rd October 2003, 09:47 AM
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Reps: 887 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Frumious Bandersnatch Really. Didn't you ever hear of Lysenko? Stalin was about as anti-Darwin as you could get. He rejected Darwinism and nearly destroyed Soviet agriculture in the process. http://skepdic.com/lysenko.html
Rejecting Darwinism for idealogical reasons turned out to do the people of the Soviet Union a lot of harm. Is there are lesson here?
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Yea, that's what I was thinking of. Stalin went with Lamarkism instead. Bad idea really.
Interestingly enough, drfeelgoods site was also wrong about Hitler. Hitler beleived in the "fixity of species", in his own words. So he was a creationist, which I find quite ironic. | 
3rd October 2003, 08:23 PM
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Reps: 26,771 (power: 42) | | Originally Posted by Data Yea, that's what I was thinking of. Stalin went with Lamarkism instead. Bad idea really.
Interestingly enough, drfeelgoods site was also wrong about Hitler. Hitler beleived in the "fixity of species", in his own words. So he was a creationist, which I find quite ironic.
I was hoping more than anything you would pay attention to the references in that last link.
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3rd October 2003, 11:37 PM
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Reps: 2,470 (power: 17) | | Originally Posted by Frumious Bandersnatch You are quoting an alleged recollection of someone who supposedly knew Stalin.
What's more, those quotes indicate that Stalin read Darwin in school, and was somewhat familiar with natural selection. That's probably true. But that's about as far as Stalin went with Darwin. Stalin and Lysenko rejected most of then-modern genetics fercryinoutloud! |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | | | |