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Old 2nd October 2003, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by nickemblow
My thoughts are this, if darwinism is a pseudoscience, then why not call it a religion and worship it like an idol, like christianity?
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Originally Posted by nickemblow
My thoughts are this, if darwinism is a pseudoscience, then why not call it a religion and worship it like an idol, like christianity?
Some do. Joseph Stalin was one of them.
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Originally Posted by drfeelgood
Some do. Joseph Stalin was one of them.
Actually that would be something like Lamarckism and it wouldn't have much to do with Darwinism.
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Originally Posted by drfeelgood
Some do. Joseph Stalin was one of them.
Hmm.. That doesn't sound right. Give me a link.
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Originally Posted by drfeelgood
Some do. Joseph Stalin was one of them.
Really. Didn't you ever hear of Lysenko? Stalin was about as anti-Darwin as you could get. He rejected Darwinism and nearly destroyed Soviet agriculture in the process.

http://skepdic.com/lysenko.html

Rejecting Darwinism for idealogical reasons turned out to do the people of the Soviet Union a lot of harm. Is there are lesson here?

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Hmm.. That doesn't sound right. Give me a link.
http://www.fixedearth.com/hlsm.html

http://www.icr.org/pubs/imp/imp-172.htm

I can't find the other secular link, which was really good.
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Another page from your link. It's a doozy!
http://www.fixedearth.com/

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Yep. "Darwinism" is quite a few different things, from the beginings of a biological theory, to social theories and ideas. Distorted version of "survival of the fittest" have been used as an excuse to kill people in the past.

Luckly the biological part broke away from darwinism and became the theory of evolution.

This is of course why anyone who calls the "theory of evolution" Darwinism, is building themselves a strawman, since its much easier to attack Darwinism than the theory of evolution.

I also mention a distorted view of survival of the fittest because many seemed to think that it ment "The strong survive (the bullies and those willing to take advantage of others) and the weak die (those who are good people)." But in reality when you try to put Natural selection in a social setting, it becomes very complicated and often the "weak" as some see them, end up surviving, suggesting they were not actually weak afterall.
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Originally Posted by drfeelgood
http://www.fixedearth.com/hlsm.html

http://www.icr.org/pubs/imp/imp-172.htm

I can't find the other secular link, which was really good.
You linked to a "fixed earth" site?

Your kidding...right?
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