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They do. Babies with blocked noses or congenital absence of airways cannot feed, as sucking (at a nipple or teat) requires both an airway and an oesophagus. Patients with a tracheostomy have difficulty swallowing, and many are fed by a tube into the stomach.
Re: knees...It's a bad design because they would be better the other way round. or so I have read at any rate.
I haven't heard this but I'll research it
for the coccyx, yes. the extensor coccyxis is however, completely useless. I hear we have another muscle somewhere that is only connected at one end, but I am no expert in anatomy.
You don't need to be an expert. Suffice to say there are lots of bits of our body that we can survive without. That doesn't suggest to me that we are designed badly, but that we are on an evolutionary route.
They do. Babies with blocked noses or congenital absence of airways cannot feed, as sucking (at a nipple or teat) requires both an airway and an oesophagus. Patients with a tracheostomy have difficulty swallowing, and many are fed by a tube into the stomach.
Which would be related to the reduction in use of the nose for breathing. They don't need to be connected but you would have to change some other things around too.
Which would be related to the reduction in use of the nose for breathing. They don't need to be connected but you would have to change some other things around too.
Nice theory, but try standing on your head and eating an apple - it goes down by peristalsis not gravity. And the gut is over 3 metres long, it's not all down-the-way.
Tragically, I know people who have died through choking too. I've seen them die . If you do something as simple as speak or cough whilst food is going down, you can disrupt the protective mechanism. Bad design?
Yes, I am familiar with the sizes of the large AND small intestine. I have dissected more than my share of cadavers.
Gravity does play a large part in many of our body functions and wiithout it things detoriorate RAPIDLY (bones muscles etc.) Yes, peristalsis is a factor but after a surgery etc. that is stunted for a while. Please do not try to stand on your head and eat that apple, I sincerely do not want you to be the next choking victim. It is not a case of "one thing" systems function with each other and with properties of this planet. As far as the mouth being near the brain for eating and breathing since they are crucial really does not make too much sense since if that were the case of importance of function the Heart would sit closer than it does. Nerve cells are the longest in the body some can be over a meter long. They fire VERY rapidly so distance is not a factor. You can think about moving your foot and then do it in WAY under a second.
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Nerve cells are the longest in the body some can be over a meter long.
oh I forgot about nerves, isn't theer one that goes from the head, under the arteried in the heart, and then back up to the larynx again, even in giraffes? and that reminds me of testicular plumbing, which seems to be proof in one piece of piping that either God is having a laugh, or ID is false.
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They do. Babies with blocked noses or congenital absence of airways cannot feed, as sucking (at a nipple or teat) requires both an airway and an oesophagus. Patients with a tracheostomy have difficulty swallowing,
oh I am not saying that any alterations would not require a radical system redesign. everything is pretty much plugged together now. If however one was designing a lifeform from scratch, odds are one could do it better.
You don't need to be an expert. Suffice to say there are lots of bits of our body that we can survive without. That doesn't suggest to me that we are designed badly, but that we are on an evolutionary route.
well as I mentioned in the previous post, the vagus nerve (is it, or the laryngeal nerve, I can't remember now) is a corker, and the way testicles are plumbed in leaves something to be desired too, and also the vertebral discs.
what is your opinion on it all though ID or evolution?
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Yes, I am familiar with the sizes of the large AND small intestine. I have dissected more than my share of cadavers.
Gravity does play a large part in many of our body functions and wiithout it things detoriorate RAPIDLY (bones muscles etc.) Yes, peristalsis is a factor but after a surgery etc. that is stunted for a while. Please do not try to stand on your head and eat that apple, I sincerely do not want you to be the next choking victim. It is not a case of "one thing" systems function with each other and with properties of this planet. As far as the mouth being near the brain for eating and breathing since they are crucial really does not make too much sense since if that were the case of importance of function the Heart would sit closer than it does. Nerve cells are the longest in the body some can be over a meter long. They fire VERY rapidly so distance is not a factor. You can think about moving your foot and then do it in WAY under a second.
LOL I know how nerve cells work.
I also know how gravity works - are you thinking about resistance, and atrophy of muscle in astronauts?
I am fully aware of cardiac innervation. I disagree that the heart should be closer to the brain. The vagus is well protected on its course; the heart is well protected within the ribcage; the heart is fairly central in the body; the heart receives innervation from spinal nerves as well as its tenth cranial nerve supply.
Breathing and eating use cranial nerves I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, IX, X, XI, and XII. I imagine one could involve the vesibulocochlear nerve too if they used some imagination.
As I postulated previously, these functions of the head and neck are so complex that their innervation is both delicate and complicated. This is my theory as to why we have a mouth in our head. Refute my theory by all means, but don't try to re-invent anatomy.
Please do not try to stand on your head and eat that apple, I sincerely do not want you to be the next choking victim.
LOL thanks for the concern... I did this many times as a young child, I was fascinated by the human body. I have never choked, so don't you worry about me
. If you do something as simple as speak or cough whilst food is going down, you can disrupt the protective mechanism. Bad design?
I know how nerve cells work.
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