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Question for creationists...

If Adam and Eve (and their children) were the only people in existence at the time that Cain killed Abel, who was Cain afraid of?
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Gen 4:13 And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear.
Gen 4:14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.
Gen 4:15 And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.
Gen 4:16 And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
Gen 4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
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Of whom was he afraid? Who is is wife?

I'm not trying to be flippant, I really want honest answers from the creationist camp.

Thanks!
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I'd be curious to know also. I'm pretty sure there's a standard apologetic to this question, but I seem to have forgotten what it is they say.

Maybe someone will come along and refresh my memory...
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Originally Posted by dukeofhazzard View Post
If Adam and Eve (and their children) were the only people in existence at the time that Cain killed Abel, who was Cain afraid of?
[bible]
Gen 4:13 And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear.
Gen 4:14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.
Gen 4:15 And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.
Gen 4:16 And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
Gen 4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
[/bible]

Of whom was he afraid? Who is is wife?

I'm not trying to be flippant, I really want honest answers from the creationist camp.

Thanks!
As I recall, many (though not all) Creationists believe that there were humans before Adam, but they did not have a "soul." So, Adam's descendants mated with these other humans.
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I believe the standard apologetic is such.

The Bible does not say when Cain murdered Abel. It could have happened several hundred years after Cain was born (or more), and Adam and Eve may have had many children since then, who also could have interbreeded and by that time created a sizable population.

As for the wife, it was obviously Cain's sister. The standard apologetic by YEC is that our DNA was perfect in Adam, so there was no recessive fatal or degerent genes in our genome for this to be a problem. The genes only came later through mututation after the fall, getting worse and worse. Indeed, Abraham married his half sister.

It was only later, at least by the time of Moses, that the genome had been corrupted enough that God forbade intermarrying among close relatives.
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I've heard both of those reasons before but had forgotten them.

Thanks for refreshing my memory!
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Originally Posted by peteos View Post
I believe the standard apologetic is such.

The Bible does not say when Cain murdered Abel. It could have happened several hundred years after Cain was born (or more), and Adam and Eve may have had many children since then, who also could have interbreeded and by that time created a sizable population.

As for the wife, it was obviously Cain's sister. The standard apologetic by YEC is that our DNA was perfect in Adam, so there was no recessive fatal or degerent genes in our genome for this to be a problem. The genes only came later through mututation after the fall, getting worse and worse. Indeed, Abraham married his half sister.

It was only later, at least by the time of Moses, that the genome had been corrupted enough that God forbade intermarrying among close relatives.
Thanks. Ewww. But thanks.
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Cain was afraid of not being the most important thing in the universe. Just like all creationists.
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