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23rd August 2007, 08:48 PM
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Reps: 781 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by metherion  So animals sinned too? Because Romans 5:12 definitely says that all sinned. Unless it isn't referring to animals, and no humans could die before humans came around because they weren't there to die.
And will animals be ressurected with everyone? Since in Christ all will be made alive? Or is it again possible that Corinthians is just referring to humans as well?
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About anmals is irrelveant, albeit all of them do go to heaven as supported by Scripture ,but Romans is speaking of humans. Is it possible the Adam and Eve were in the garden, sealed off from the rest of the world and that is what is meant?
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23rd August 2007, 09:19 PM
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Reps: 106,869 (power: 119) | | Originally Posted by Phil4987 About anmals is irrelveant, albeit all of them do go to heaven as supported by Scripture ,but Romans is speaking of humans. Is it possible the Adam and Eve were in the garden, sealed off from the rest of the world and that is what is meant?
I was just wondering. Where do you find that all animals go to heaven in scripture? I don't even remember that. In fact I've never heard of this until you brought it up.
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23rd August 2007, 09:22 PM
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Reps: 6,220 (power: 12) | | Originally Posted by Phil4987 I don't know what the Qu Ran says, but I know the Bible says there was no death before Ada and Eve. By reading the Bible, how to you reconcile evolution with that? Is the passage a metaphor as well?
its referring to a spiritual death. you may be asking how I arrived to that conclusion. lets take a look at Romans 6:23 Romans 6:23: for the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Jesus Christ our Lord
of course you aren't going to physically live forever if you accept the gift of God that this passage refers to. It means that your sould will live forever and will never be seperated from god. spiritual death is eternal seperation from God. |
23rd August 2007, 10:24 PM
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Reps: 320,094 (power: 327) | | Originally Posted by Phil4987 About anmals is irrelveant, albeit all of them do go to heaven as supported by Scripture ,but Romans is speaking of humans. Is it possible the Adam and Eve were in the garden, sealed off from the rest of the world and that is what is meant?
How do you explain the physiology of the Great White shark? It's is primed for killing prey. What do you suppose they were eating before there was sin in the world and animals died? |
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Reps: 257,463,246,207,844,928 (power: 257,463,246,207,853) | | | Well, if it isn't referring to animals when it says all sinned, then how can it be referring to them when it says all have died through sin and all will be raised?
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